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Nijiax
Are you going OOM? I would hope you dont use ABx3 the whole fight, unless you somehow dont go OOM with that rotation.
Only thing I see wrong is that you have some ffb gear on. As far as easily accessible gear goes, get boots replaced with wyrmrest exalted boots, ring band of guile/annhylde ring for your other ring, and wrists with valor badge wrists.
Do you have any other chest pieces/trinkets?
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nickseng
I don't get all these Arcane mages that claim that they rarely Evocate. Isn't that like a Frost mages rarely summoning the Elemental, or a Fire mage rarely refreshing Living Bomb?
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nickseng
I don't get all these Arcane mages that claim that they rarely Evocate. Isn't that like a Frost mages rarely summoning the Elemental, or a Fire mage rarely refreshing Living Bomb?
Then again, Evocation does cost DPS.
Not for an Arcane mage. That is to say, the DPS they can do with the extra mana makes it worth it to Evocate every 2 minutes.
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Achloryn
Are you going OOM? I would hope you dont use ABx3 the whole fight, unless you somehow dont go OOM with that rotation.
Only thing I see wrong is that you have some ffb gear on. As far as easily accessible gear goes, get boots replaced with wyrmrest exalted boots, ring band of guile/annhylde ring for your other ring, and wrists with valor badge wrists.
Do you have any other chest pieces/trinkets?
i don't think there's anything wrong with his gear.. he's got boots from heroic naxx, why the hell would he replace them with boots that are considerably lower? he's got over 439 haste rating, and that's not counting the 3% from Netherwind Presence.. so he's running over 16% haste which is perfectly fine for arcane, and he's got over 2k spell power, and almost 20k mana unbuffed. he may be slightly over hit cap but i think that's negligible really.
Let me ask you this OP.. What kind of DPS are you putting out with your rotation, and what do you THINK you should be putting out?
Also, they fixed the clipping of the 5th arcane missle by ABarr, so ABarr doesn't get the 3rd ABl buff like it used to.. just fire your MBarr when it procs after 3x ABl, then start over again.
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Nijiax
i don't think there's anything wrong with his gear.. he's got boots from heroic naxx, why the hell would he replace them with boots that are considerably lower? he's got over 439 haste rating, and that's not counting the 3% from Netherwind Presence.. so he's running over 16% haste which is perfectly fine for arcane, and he's got over 2k spell power, and almost 20k mana unbuffed. he may be slightly over hit cap but i think that's negligible really.
So you think -1 sp, +51 haste, -35 crit is "considerably lower?"
Boots of crimson fury is the second best in slot (if hit capped) for arcane mages. FFB (crit) gear is not suited for arcane mage.
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nickseng
forgive me if i think that taking 7 sec or so to evocate isnt going to lower my dps, I evocate on only a few boss fights (kel thuzad for example with the mana drains)
I stick to the correct arc rotation, so evocating is not going to give me any extra dps, it will just lower my dps, straight and simple. I use evo as an emergency when my gems are on cd and ive used a mana pot
some people say and think that using molten armour and evocating twice in a boss fight is the way to go, i think differently, i think using mage armour and not evocating is the way to go, it works well for me, my guild has everything on farm and I am the top dps, on the fights where i do evocate it hurts my overall dps,
look at it this way
7 min boss fight
use molten armour to gain 5% crit but lose 22 seconds of dps to evocate
does that 5% crit which really isnt the most important stat for arc mages anyway make up for 22 seconds of not doing anything?
The purpose of Evocating is not so that I can avoid Mage Armor, rather it's so I can be in my burn phase longer.
The way I see it, the only way you can last the whole fight is to use a less mana-intensive rotation, which is good if you never want to evocate. The downside is you do less DPS than being in a higher DPS rotation.
You have to remember, for an Arcane Mage, Mana = Damage. And Evocation is really the best & fastest way to regain mana you have.
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Achloryn
ok, so calling it "considerably lower" was a bit of a stretch, but how much more can he benefit from raising his haste to 490? isn't there a point where adding more haste becomes point for point not worth it anymore?
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250116
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nickseng
sigh
i am in my burn phaze the entire time, I AM NOT RUNNING OUT OF MANA, so why would i evocate?
like i said, my rotation does not vary
3 x ab, arc barr or miss barr
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You do know that's not the burn rotation, right?
That's just the normal rotation. Burn Rotation is AB3SpamMbarr
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250116
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nickseng
Depending on my luck, I'm hitting around 6.3k dps, though sometime the stupid MBarr refuses to proc in my burn phase, resulting in lower DPS. Generally, it's usually over 6k. The dps loss by Evocating is usually made up by being in the burn phase longer.
You know what, try downloading Rawr and see what it says. I have a feeling you're not gonna accept what I say anyway.
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