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I\'m frustrated with seal of vengeance...
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Synectics
If you're downing a boss in 40 seconds... first, grats. Second, I highly doubt that SoV stacking completely is going to make much difference in a fight that short. There are trash pulls that last longer than that, and you don't use SoV on trash pulls, do you?
The point of SoV is for boss fights -- you know, a fight that lasts around 2 to 5 minutes. With a 3.6 swing weapon, you're right -- it should take roughly 15-20 seconds to stack up the DoT. In a 2 to 5 minute fight, that's a pretty small fraction of the fight.
And as holypallyftw pointed out, you could always, you know... use a different seal. If SoV is going to fade off, then (crazy talk!) don't use it. You'll obviously get more benefit from SoR.
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Post by
darkdog
Crusader strike does apply sov but divine storm does not. And changing to a faster 1h = a loss in dps since you get a % of your white damage as holy for each stack of sov 7/14/21/28/35. And also i think switching weapons triggers the gcd(not sure on this one)
Also if your downing heroic bosses in 40 seconds or less it does not matter much:)
Biggest thing i don't get is that hotr applies seals but divine storm does not.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Crusader strike does apply sov
since when...
Post by
Zarra
You are mistaking the Crusader Strike applying the first stack, with the auto-attack that come right after you push that button. Auto-attack is the one putting up that first stack
Post by
darkdog
Meh thought it did on the 3.2 ptr but things change. My rule is if the fight is gonna last over 1min and i will have a 80% Tot i use sov otherwise i use sor.
Post by
Synectics
And changing to a faster 1h = a loss in dps since you get a % of your white damage as holy for each stack of sov 7/14/21/28/35. And also i think switching weapons triggers the gcd(not sure on this one)
Correct. I believe Squish did some math on this, and showed that it's nearly impossible to get better DPS through a faster stacking SoV, due to exactly what you mentioned.
I think the final ruling was that it's "possible" to get better DPS by doing the one-hand-to-two-hand switch, but after taking into account the weapon swing reset, inherent client-server lag, and other issues, it's just not worth bothering for the extra 3 or 4 DPS.
Post by
zoomie
If you are downing bosses in 40 seconds then who gives a damn! Seriously, if bosses die that fast then you can attack him with no seal at all and be just fine. Killing bosses that fast is EZ mode, and you want blizzard to change something to help you get your stacks up and get MORE dps? Blizzard made the game extremely easy to play because of the large amount of IDIOTS that play it, and your already reaping the benefits of blizzard catering to retards because you can kill bosses that fast, and you want MORE? Every patch and every expansion, blizzard gets closer and closer and closer to fixing
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18230
. Blizzard is *TRYING* to dumb the game down so idiots can play it but theres *STILL* idiots like you out there who can't think for yourself! If you don't like the seal because its not good for short fights, don't use it on short fights! It's as simple as that!
If a boss dies in 40 seconds who gives a damn what you do, its easy as hell. Forget about it and move on. Try harder content.
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Post by
Silversmith
Actually, with proper libram, SoV is already better at about 13 second mark. Stacking might take a while, but it is damn good.
Post by
00bender00
With windfury and some haste from gear it takes 12ish seconds to stack SoV to 5.
Cant see this being a problem with raid bosses.
Post by
PureGold
Omg you have to not use one seal for all circumstances! It is the end of the world as you know it!
Seriously though, raid some harder content, complain less, and please pay attention to things going on around you. Because maybe if you did those things you might notice that SoV/Cor is not for a quick fight but something long and drawn out.
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Post by
Quest
How hard is this;
MobLife > 15 Seconds = SoR
MobLife < 15 Seconds = SoV
You = HasNewSoC = Use it and stfu.
Post by
Squishalot
How hard is this;
MobLife
<
15 Seconds = SoR
MobLife
>
15 Seconds = SoV
Very hard, of course - Fixed.
Note to the world - Quest actually made a mistake!
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344828
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Post by
slasher0161
Just for the record don't lump all of use who haven't progressed exceptionally through raids in the category of retards, however if i had to point the finger at a reason for some much complaining about things that work i would /point pre voc maths.
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