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How op are retadins?
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trademen
It's not so much that they are op, it's just the fact that it's pretty much all burst damage, so people usually get killed within the first few seconds if they are not careful. If you can survive a ret paladins first rotation, and you are about the same in terms of gear, and you know how to play your class you should be able to win
maybe a 6 or 7 on the op scale.
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TaurenSham
IMHO somewhere around 7-8 this might be slightly biased since I usually play a shaman and when I jump on my alt pally I feel like I can do anything.
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sky3union
It's not so much that they are op, it's just the fact that it's pretty much all burst damage, so people usually get killed within the first few seconds if they are not careful. If you can survive a ret paladins first rotation, and you are about the same in terms of gear, and you know how to play your class you should be able to win
maybe a 6 or 7 on the op scale.
My opinion is exactly same as 'trademen', 6 or 7 on the op scale and the reason.
If you ever played a ret pally you would know how strong judgement, CS, DS burst can be. But that's it. After that it's simply auto attack until your CD is up again.
Basically first burst within 3 seconds, wait 3-4 seconds, same burst, wait 3-4 seconds, repeat, is what you will experience agaist ret pally. Of course smart ret pally would use stun and repentance accordingly to interrupt what you're planning to do in that blank 3-4 seconds. And it's your job to counter that when fighting against ret pally.
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Penzzo
the whole op thing is not really OP its more the ret pally playing style most veterans can prolly agree with me. Ret pallies have like a total of 5 or 6 buttons they hit its not a hard class/spec to understand so ppl become accustomed to the playing style therefore becoming better. So all in all i jus say there the easiest class to master makin them that much better than othr classes who are harder to become "good" at.
But overall i give them 5 jus like i give every class thats "good"
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svirve
Ret paladins are so OP, they put the PO in Winnie the POoh!
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Rencol
Ok so i play pala since horde get it, im mainly pve but tried out pvp too and here is my opinion:
pve opness with quest/heroic items - 6
pve opness with 25/ulduar items - 9
pvp opness with pve gear - 3-7 depending on gear
pvp opness with savage/hatefull gear - 5
pvp opness with deadly/furious - 9
Pala is still %^&*in dependant on gear, im fully 25 man epic and i can be out dpsed by dk with semi blue gear in some situations, and in another encounters not even best lock can out dps me.(nerf mind sear!)
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Rencol
Thats becouse in naxx you usualy meet:
1) large grps - and rogue only spam aoe and hit all, while you hit only 4 by your divine storm
2) single mobs or bosses - rogue pwn you on single target dps
Pala will own anyone while fighting against small grps of 3-5 elite mobs. For example - packs of drakes in obsidian sanctum
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Lightrain
Thats becouse in naxx you usualy meet:
1) large grps - and rogue only spam aoe and hit all, while you hit only 4 by your divine storm
2) single mobs or bosses - rogue pwn you on single target dps
Pala will own anyone while fighting against small grps of 3-5 elite mobs. For example - packs of drakes in obsidian sanctum
Yet we rape rogue face in arena.... Go figure....
Post by
Gafanhoto
Go ask the same question in other class forums mate.
Noone here is going to tell they are OP.
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Lightrain
Go ask the same question in other class forums mate.
Noone here is going to tell they are OP.
Hehe, because we know how easy it is to out heal a ret paladin. It happens ALL the time. It's not like warriors, hunters, or rogues, where you have to get them off for a bit or they will just own you.
Post by
XxOmuraxX
How to be satisfied by a ret pally when every other dps classes can pull more dps than them on a boss dummy. Wtf? 2500 dps? 3350+ ap, 31,20% crit , hit capped with The Jawbone... err we were "good" in 25 naxx only because the mobs here were most undeads, OBS yeah good place, lot of aoe, but Ulduar and VoA etc... we really suck...
In pvp, with some hatefull gears, we have the 50% win we need.
Please blizz... less burst, more dps....
I want only QQ about the exorcism not available on players... the only thing that could help us to have a chance against Dks and prot warriors...
Post by
Lightrain
Actually, we seem to be "OK" enough that we can do descently in arena. What my issue right now is... Repentance needs to be usable on resto druids, all paladins need Arcane Torrent, and "absorb" should not negate JotW and Glyph of SoB procs. That's so stupid it hurts(give one class the ability to reduce our returns to nothing
and
mana burn the crap out of the little bit that's left
and
remove DP and HoF....).
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