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How Not To Suck in an LFD PuG (Lowbies)
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Post by
kmoney
I am leveling a Holy Priest partially through the LFD system. I have noticed a trend of players inexperienced with group mechanics, which makes my job as the Healer many times harder than it should be. If you are new to dungeon running, please read this guide; if you know someone new to dungeon running, please direct them this direction.
First, the
Tank
:
Any of these classes can be dedicated Tanks:
Druids (Feral Spec, using Bear Form)
Paladins (Protection Spec, using Righteous Fury)
Warriors (Protection Spec, using Defensive Stance)
Death Knights (Any Spec , using Frost Presence)
Tanks want all the Aggro, or Threat, on them. They also need to make sure the mobs aren't being tanked in a position that causes the group to take damage from Area of Effect spells. Tanks also enforce the pace at which the group clears the dungeon. If the Tank isn't moving forward, the group should not move forward. This can be somewhat flexible, but it is generally not a good idea to pull the next group if the Tank or Healer is not ready.
Next, the
Healer
:
Any of these classes can be dedicated Healers:
Priest (Holy or Discipline Spec)
Druid (Resotration Spec)
Shaman (Restoration Spec)
Paladin (Holy Spec)
Healers are in charge of who lives and dies in the group. If the Healer says he's out of Mana, the group waits until he says he's ready. When I say "Out of Mana" and then sit down to drink, I will not cast a heal until I either have enough Mana to make it through the fight, or I've entered combat and if the Tank dies, I will end up dying too.
In low level five-man dungeons, Healers like having one (1) target to focus their heals on. The more people they have to heal, the faster they lose Mana. The faster they lose Mana, the longer they have to drink between pulls. That means, that not letting your Healer regain enough Mana to be comfortable will actually make your run
longer
.
Lastly, the
DPS
:
"DPS" means "Damage Per Second." The DPS are the ones who kill the mobs before they kill the Tank because the Healer ran out of Mana. All classes have at least one (1) DPS spec.
The DPS's number one priority is not pulling Aggro off the Tank. Their number two priority is not dying from AoE effects that can easily be avoided. Most DPS classes cannot take the abuse the Tanks can so you don't want to be the one being hit.
The Don't of DPS:
Don't pull the next group without the OK of the Tank
AND
Healer.
Don't stand in "fire." "Fire" is anything on the ground that hurts you and you can get out of. A Healer may toss a heal or two your way to keep you alive until you get out, but most will not waste the extra effort if you don't get out of it.
Any thoughts or questions are welcome. This is only a first draft.
Post by
dumac
I call shaningans. I use bandage rogue as a healer, he may like to stealth and steal our loots, but my god he is faster bugger on those bandages.
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Post by
Badguy
IE, good starter guide, but will never be seen by 90% of the people that need it! I have found the same holds true for guild forums >.>
Yeah, guides like this would actually need to pop up on player's screens to get out to the ones who need them, but don't know where to look.
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Post by
Hubbs
I really like this idea b/c its short and sweet, and as said before, too bad the players that really need this won't see it ..
Blizz litterally needs a button, or option or something in which N00bZ ! can click and read this exact post to get a quick understanding of WTF is going on!
Post by
biogoo
If the Healer says he's out of Mana, the group waits until he says he's ready.
Tip for starters-healers that keep slowing groups down by unnecessary overheals and consequent mana breaks:
Catch the first mage you meet every day, talk/bribe/beat him to conjure for you ridiculously high ammounts of water and after killing group of mobs in dungeon, run with the group and just spend first seconds of the fight drinking. Most of the tanks need some time to think the pull anyway, so you should be able to drink for some 10 seconds before the first heal has to be cast. Rinse and repeat.
This works wonders in lower level instances, where the damage is pretty low, but can be used anytime up to raids.
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Post by
faia
add
Healers got diffrent ways to heal to be effecient with mana!
so tired of noob resto druids that spam regrowth/healing touc(yes...naturalist 5/5...) and dont use hots and WONDER why they go oom fast <.<
Post by
Rubendesmet619
The guys I have mostly an issue with is that silent ones.
%t why are you needing on that?(mage needing on mail f.ex.)
<no responce>
%t why aren't you doing anything?
Hello?
You there
<mage needs on agility/strengthsword over the warrior>
Warrior asks if he can get it traded
no reaction.
THAT are the guys that can make my blood boil.
Post by
Monday
The guys I have mostly an issue with is that silent ones.
%t why are you needing on that?(mage needing on mail f.ex.)
<no responce>
%t why aren't you doing anything?
Hello?
You there
<mage needs on agility/strengthsword over the warrior>
Warrior asks if he can get it traded
no reaction.
THAT are the guys that can make my blood boil.
Mages can roll on agility and strength? That's odd, recently on my HOLY paladin I couldn't roll for anything with intellect and SP on it, because it wasn't plate.
Post by
Interest
It was a green item most likely, as those are exempt from restricted rolls.
Post by
Monday
It was a green item most likely, as those are exempt from restricted rolls.
i was unaware of that, thanks!
Post by
lordlundar
It was a green item most likely, as those are exempt from restricted rolls.
If I recall correctly, BoE items are exempt from it. BoP items adhere to the rules.
Post by
Bellandra
Mages can roll on agility and strength? That's odd, recently on my HOLY paladin I couldn't roll for anything with intellect and SP on it, because it wasn't plate.
I think this rule doesn't apply to low levels.. my holy paladin has rolled need on all kinds of cloth gear (like the gloves from deadmines and the robe from.. somewhere, the belt and pants from blackfathom deeps..)
She's currently level 26.
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