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Grid/Clique vs. Healbot Heals ;]
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inthane
I recently hit 80 on my Priest and have been using Vuhdo in place of HealBot/Grid+Clique/Xperl - it's basically got the insane level of configurability of Grid+Clique with the user friendliness of HealBot. I started off on Healbot, found it easy to use, but lacking real configuration options, moved on to Grid/Clique and was never able to get it working quite the way I wanted. Then Vuhdo was pointed out to me, and bam - I've been healing Heroics like second nature, and I'm stepping into Naxx this Wednesday.
(I'm leveling a paladin, which is why I'm hanging around this part of the board.)
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Quest
Xperl is trash.
qtf
Quoted to fail? Hrrrrm?
Xperl is personally amazing, I don't like the hand holding a lot of addons do, Xperl shows me everything I wanna know and let's me do it how I WANT to do it. Not what the addon wants me to do. I'd rather see someone has aggro so I should start healing or wait for the tank to regain aggro, or see the debuffs, than to have something go "OH EM GEE U NED 2 DISPEL"
You seem new to addons and the internet in general. Xpearl sucks, and it only amazes people that haven't tried better.
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Brique
Xperl is basic. It allows you to have a new way of looking at stuff.
Pitbull does the same, but it gives you the ability to look at it the way you prefer. I use Grid and Pitbull with Clique. I like Grid. Pitbull's party and raid frames have a crappy habit of not updating as fast as I'd like them to, and it's buff tracking is so broken I'm hoping for a change soon. I've been using Elkano's Buff Bars to track all of my buffs and debuffs, on targets next to the frame, and myself all along the right side of the screen. I actually don't keep a Player frame out anymore. I just have a target frame, with my health and mana positioned in plain text above it, because I found it useless to have my own health in a bulky display of a bar. It didn't help me to know I had 15/20 of a mana bar left, or that it was simply "not full, but over half." It helps me more to see just a simple 75% next to my exact numerical amount of mana. Pitbull is just customizable enough to allow me to do this. If I need to heal myself, I'm looking at the raid frames anyways, and I will get a heal. In a party it's no different, I just include myself on those party frames.
The one big advantage Healbot has (I believe) is the fact that you can safely bind two spells to your left and right mouse buttons. If you try to do that in Clique, and then use it in Grid, it'll be fine too... just that every time you right click on a player's unit frame to invite/promote/whisper/etc, you'll be casting the bound spell instead of opening right mouse button menu.
Very wrong. The complaints about Clique are founded by people that haven't explored the options. You can set Clique to ignore frames so you can click on them like you normally do, and only register your Clique casts on certain ones. It provides options for every character frame you have enabled, addons or otherwise.
Healbot is heavily geared towards healing, and I like using Grid because it's simply easier to see the information at a glance. If I had Healbot or Vuhdu on a Mage, I'm losing a lot of functionality. Sure I could decurse using the frames, but they'd be distracting and too large, either in CPU usage or screen space.
The "works out of the box" excuse is a crappy one. It just doesn't compare to a custom interface that focuses on information you want. Putting effort into creating one for yourself lets you streamline your screen area, minimize the reaction time, and keep track of things important to you. That's why you use addons. They aren't a crutch unless you seriously are a bad player -- it just refines the game's information so you're not doing unnecessary strain on the task at hand. Healing is all about reaction time and planning ahead. Tanking is all about positioning and control. DPS is all about maximizing output. All of the class roles overlap, as you need positioning to be successful as a Healer or a DPS, but it's even more important to a Tank. Maximizing your output is sure important to Healers and Tanks, but it's still the main concern of a DPS. I follow that philosophy when I balance my UI and weed out useless addons.
To be fair, the default Blizzard UI is extremely well done. It provides enough options to get the jobs done whether through heavy macro usage or constant strain from how the information is placed on the screen. During every PTR, I go into it without any addons enabled, and spend a good hour or two figuring out how Blizzard intends for anyone to perform in their new content by macroing and rebinding everything I can, while using Blizzard's default frames. Having the information at the edge of the screen and not letting you change this is the stupidest thing they did. I'm hoping they do what they did with the raid windows and the focus frame with the rest of the UI by default, and allow you to track cooldowns in a more clear manner. Because at the moment these things suck.
Purge away all your crappy addons and figure out what information is actually important to you before you build a new UI.
I would rather mods be used as tools of the skilled, rather than crutches for the mentally handicapped.
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blueocean
Grid + Keybinds > Grid + Clique > Healbot > All
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Synectics
If your'e new to healing, try healbot.
I respectfully and vehemently disagree. Healbot becomes a crippling, addictive crutch. The best healers I know never used it. We had to call a raid one time because a patch had installed but Healbot was not updated; half of our healers announced that Healbot was not working properly, so they couldn't heal. The other half of our healers laughed at them. Had one healer left over that incident.
Do not let an add-on play your game for you.
That's a fault of the player -- not the add-on. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Healbot, or any of the other add-ons mentioned. I use it for every situation of healing, and for the reasons I've mentioned -- I have 12 spells bound to simply clicking on a frame (between shift, etc. modifiers), which leaves my action bar -- the numbers I press with my left hand -- to be bound to a multitude of other things, quickly accessible.
I could just as easily not use Healbot -- there'd be no change in my healing effectiveness -- but I would have to redo my entire action bar, making several of my easily pressable macros (such as Power Infusion to the highest DPS, etc) now needing to be clicked.
I absolutely HATE clicking on my action bar, and it's why I use Healbot -- or any other similar add-on, really. I love having EVERYTHING I use pressable as fast as my reaction time will allow, and not have to swing my cursor around my screen so much.
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MischievousLoki
That's a fault of the player -- not the add-on. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Healbot, or any of the other add-ons mentioned. I use it for every situation of healing, and for the reasons I've mentioned -- I have 12 spells bound to simply clicking on a frame (between shift, etc. modifiers), which leaves my action bar -- the numbers I press with my left hand -- to be bound to a multitude of other things, quickly accessible.
I could just as easily not use Healbot -- there'd be no change in my healing effectiveness -- but I would have to redo my entire action bar, making several of my easily pressable macros (such as Power Infusion to the highest DPS, etc) now needing to be clicked.
I absolutely HATE clicking on my action bar, and it's why I use Healbot -- or any other similar add-on, really. I love having EVERYTHING I use pressable as fast as my reaction time will allow, and not have to swing my cursor around my screen so much.
I have a similar keybinding philosophy. I like to have everything on an easily accessable key, but I've never had to resort to having things on (via mod or macro) to pull it off.
and is 10 keys.
Add, modifiers: , , , , now you've got a total of 40 bindings just off those easily reachable 10. Granted, I leave things that are harder to hit while moving to be things I never have to hit while moving. They're all pretty easy binds, regardless.
Ctrl+Shift+F4 is pretty much the longest stretch, but if you are hitting those with the heel of your hand, it'll come very naturally and smoothly.
I also use Shift+ Z, X, C, F and G for an extra 5. I'd bind more letters but I hate unbinding default hotkeys for all the different information panes.
But after all of this, when I'm healing as a paladin I only hit at most 6 different buttons regularly. The rest are cooldowns, and even of those six, I only have to hit two once a minute.
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Synectics
I have a similar keybinding philosophy. I like to have everything on an easily accessable key, but I've never had to resort to having things on (via mod or macro) to pull it off.
and is 10 keys.
Add, modifiers: , , , , now you've got a total of 40 bindings just off those easily reachable 10. Granted, I leave things that are harder to hit while moving to be things I never have to hit while moving. They're all pretty easy binds, regardless.
Ctrl+Shift+F4 is pretty much the longest stretch, but if you are hitting those with the heel of your hand, it'll come very naturally and smoothly.
I also use Shift+ Z, X, C, F and G for an extra 5. I'd bind more letters but I hate unbinding default hotkeys for all the different information panes.
But after all of this, when I'm healing as a paladin I only hit at most 6 different buttons regularly. The rest are cooldowns, and even of those six, I only have to hit two once a minute.
Wow. Yeah, I only use 1-6, Tab, Q, E, R, left mouse button and right mouse button, and then shift modifiers for each. I leave F1-F5 as default for targeting for 5-man's. I couldn't imagine using THAT many bindings. XD
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