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valundar
I always gem for socket bonuses. priority is int>sp>mp5>haste>crit
But thats just me.
But the general thought seems to be to gem for +int. over all others.
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valundar
socket bonuses are vastly overrated.
I see them as free stats.
As long as it isn't gemmed with wasted stats like stam... why not get them?
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Hyperspacerebel
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48587
you can either gem 20 int and get no socket bonus, or gem 10 int / 5 mp5 and get 9 sp socket bonus. I personally would take 5 mp5 and 9 sp over 10 in.
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valundar
because you can slap a +20 int gem in there instead.
It's not "free" stats, it's costing int to go for socket bonuses.
It is a matter of 10 int vs 9 sp and 5 mp5.
The socket bonus wins.
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Post by
Brique
I go for the highest possible intellect from gemming.
I socket
Brilliant King's Amber
entirely, and slap a
Nightmare Tear
into the piece with the best socket bonus. The Nightmare Tear alone will activate the
Insightful Earthsiege Diamond
meta. In my case, it was +9 SP in my
Conqueror's Aegis Headpiece
. This will give you the highest possible Intellect. The Nightmare Tear covers the Blue and Red requirements allowing me to skip socketing another half-and-half gem and socket another Brilliant King's Amber.
It may not be an option for you to grab gear upgrades with for a higher amount of intellect, but this will get you the highest possible intellect through gemming. Well, at least until you can socket three Luminous Ametrine to activate the Ember Skyflare Diamond and reach same amount of intellect that outclasses the 71 intellect from gemming the way I do, so that 30 + (.02 x Intellect) would be superior. You'd need in the neighborhood of 2000 intellect to do that.
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valundar
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48587
you can either gem 20 int and get no socket bonus, or gem 10 int / 5 mp5 and get 9 sp socket bonus. I personally would take 5 mp5 and 9 sp over 10 in.
Really? Ok well consider me disageeing then.
I think people overvalue it because it's a socket bonus.
In a vacuum, if I said hey look here are two gems and socket doesn't matter:
Gem1: +10 int
Gem2: +9 sp/+5 mp5
I'm still taking the +10 int. But to each his own.
How does "in a vacuum" apply?
It quite literally is
10 int vs 9 sp 5 mp/5
Unless you cant afford epic gems... then it is even more balanced towards the socket bonus.
But hey, To each his own.
the 10 int isnt a bad choice at all. I just like the socket bonus.
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Brique
How does "in a vacuum" apply?
It quite literally is
10 int vs 9 sp 5 mp/5
.
To me, it's because 10 intellect will give you over 5 mp5 in a vacuum. If you Divine Plea every minute and have replenishment up 90% of time, then 10 intellect outclasses 5 mp5 in terms of regen. But, it's generally not possible to Divine Plea every minute. :]
It's more literally 10 int 2sp 5.2 mp5 165 mana (and some abysmally small crit chance) vs 9 sp 5 mp5.
Most socket bonuses are so small, I don't care to activate them. I might get +30 SP from activating all of them in my gear, while losing about 80 intellect. Stupid decision.
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valundar
If you simply prefer the other stats, nothing wrong with that, just not my style.
And we have a winner!
I like balance.
It pains me to socket all intellect.
I've read the reasoning... but it doesn't.. feel... right.
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96875
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Post by
valundar
How does "in a vacuum" apply?
It quite literally is
10 int vs 9 sp 5 mp/5
.
To me, it's because 10 intellect will give you over 5 mp5 in a vacuum. If you Divine Plea every minute and have replenishment up 90% of time, then 10 intellect outclasses 5 mp5 in terms of regen. But, it's generally not possible to Divine Plea every minute. :]
It's more literally 10 int 2sp 5.2 mp5 165 mana (and some abysmally small crit chance) vs 9 sp 5 mp5.
Most socket bonuses are so small, I don't care to activate them. I might get +30 SP from activating all of them in my gear, while losing about 80 intellect. Stupid decision.
I looked.
Replacing all your gems to get the socket bonuses would give you a net change of:
-1300 mana (ish) at start
-18 mp5 with replenishment and divine plea on cd. closer to = if not used on cd
(65 static mp/5 gain... but factoring in the losses.....)
-0.5% spell crit (and some regen from that)
all to gain
+48 sp
Ive seen the maths before, and im sure i am not 100% correct in my rough maths.... but the idea is there.
The socket bonuses make for larger static mp/5 and may be able to limit the dp use....
But it seems that i just needed to do the math for myself.
TL;DR
Converted to stacking the bejesus outta the +int gems
The diffference isnt as pronounced when ya dont have epic gems...(socket bonus is worth more then)
so ill make the change as i upgrade to epic gems.
Thanks Caean and Brique
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