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Garrosh as warchief, could this be a test?
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Skreeran
regardless of you want to admit it or not, the horde as it stands today has never been as strong as it is now.
I have never been as old today as I am now.What?
The Horde is at it's peak strength, is what Tauren is saying.
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166613
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Post by
Skreeran
There's one massive hole in that theory.
Why would Thrall choose to put this into place at a time when 1. The world is being torn apart beneath our feet and cooperation is needed more than ever, and 2., Tensions are already skyrocketing, putting Garrosh in charge ensures that war
will
happen.
If he wanted to test us, he should have done it back in TBC when we were all happy and not about to go to war. Garrosh will only makes thigs worse in a time that things are already flushing down the pooper.
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taurenmoo812
I've found it intresting too when finding the age different between Garrosh and Thrall (no offical age said) that Garrosh is older then Thrall, and yet Thralls overall character suggests someone whos older and more mature then Garrosh.
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Skreeran
I've found it intresting too when finding the age different between Garrosh and Thrall (no offical age said) that Garrosh is older then Thrall, and yet Thralls overall character suggests someone whos older and more mature then Garrosh.That's because Garrosh has a "developmental problem."
Why do you think he's gone from a whiny 2 yr old to a mean 3 yr old.
"Garrosh! No! That's very bad! Don't bite that poor human! Say you're sorry."
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Patty
"Garrosh! No! That's very bad! Don't bite that poor human! Say you're sorry."
*giefs a cookie*
Thrall needs to discipline the whiny brat who is older than him. :@
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166613
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Post by
taurenmoo812
There's one massive hole in that theory.
Why would Thrall choose to put this into place at a time when 1. The world is being torn apart beneath our feet and cooperation is needed more than ever, and 2., Tensions are already skyrocketing, putting Garrosh in charge ensures that war
will
happen.
If he wanted to test us, he should have done it back in TBC when we were all happy and not about to go to war. Garrosh will only makes thigs worse in a time that things are already flushing down the pooper.
From a engineering standpoint, you'd want to put the system under the greatest stress possible. If the Horde can survive a lack of Thrall's leadership now...they can survive anything. Also, we know the Cataclysm is coming...Thrall, Garrosh, etc. do not. This could be one of those plans that can't be called off, even while the world is breaking. (cf. World War I).
Also, Thrall wants the Horde to survive his passing. The time to find out if it can is while he's still alive to make changes.
Forgive my criticism here, but I think your riding more on this then what there is any evidense for. Thrall has given no indication of wanting to 'step down', and as events happen in cataclysm it comes to how Garrosh takes lead of the horde, but nothing to suggest him becoming warchief. I repeat what I said earlier that Thrall is actully younger then Garrosh, and so in Thrall was enclined to pass leadership to someone older then him, he would more then likely give it to Saurfang or an old friend he trusted.
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Post by
Skreeran
And I'm saying his sentence is redundant.
He's saying that the Horde is presently more powerful than it has ever presently been.Ah... I see what you mean now.
Post by
taurenmoo812
regardless of you want to admit it or not, the horde as it stands today has never been as strong as it is now.
I have never been as old today as I am now.What?
The Horde is at it's peak strength, is what Tauren is saying.
And I'm saying his sentence is redundant.
He's saying that the Horde is presently more powerful than it has ever presently been.
It wasn't redundant, I just wrote it incorrectly as was put across as me saying that, when I actully meant the horde at present is more powerful then it ever as been in the past.
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Patty
He's made 2 on Garrosh in L&RP. That's not many.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Give the Garrosh threads a rest already.
Oh I see. So where as you keep throwing one Varian thread or post after another, and the driving point of everything in Adams thread on Varian is based on your overzealous admiration of him, I then can't make a thread on an opposing character in lore, even in a thread about the changing faces of the horde, where Garrosh is one element in that?
I am just defending him.
This is like your fifth thread about Garrosh, nobody likes him, how many more do you have to make to under stand this?
I kind of thought you would bring my defence of Varian out, though... dodging the question is somthing I am used to from you.
You, telling Me that I'm dodging the question? Given your notorious not just for that, but also not being able to find a creative method of debating, you turn what you do as a fault back on people and claim there the ones doing it. Your not hard to read anymore Dark.
Incase you wasn't aware of, Garrosh is a big thing in the lore right now because of the impending change he's about to bring to the horde, so someone has as much right to talk about this as the next person.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Although I do believe that not only this discussion is pointless (Kisirani told us there's more to be seen, let's just wait) and that taurenmoo is exagerating a bit (although he didn't make "4" threads about Garrosh, he made 1 about Garrosh, 1 about Thrall's neutrality and one more about "The End of the Horde as we know and love it", thats not counting the humor thread he made about Garrosh, of course).
I also believe that darkton was a bit too rude, no matter what.
Dark wanted to throw my debate into it being just another Garrosh thread, but the structure of my thread was also about Thrall, and what will happen to the horde without him present to lead it fully.
I just as well could say Dark has made multiple threads about Varian because he mentions him in every other post, but that would be inconsistent.
Back on the topic though, my argument is that the horde as it stands now is the strongest its ever been, yet some try to believe the horde was at its peak when it was corrupted and lead on by demonic influence and later Gul'dan.
In terms of leadership, well Doomhammer was a noble and good leader for his people, who set the ball rolling for the horde redemption, he took the raines at a time that the horde was like a locomotive and wouldn't stop.
It goes in a pattern of
Orcs live in peace - Orcs corrupted by the legion, Horde is formed - Horde sent into a warlike onslaught - Doomhammer takes control from blackhand - Doomhammer lays the path for the orcs - Orcs captured by the alliance - Thrall grows and takes lead after Doomhammers death - Thrall leads his people and creates a new horde - Cities and towns and villages are built, order comes to the horde.
So it goes in a pattern of straight, then down, then slightly up, then completely rock bottom, then raising up again and not stopping.. until Garrosh.
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