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I understand that we can be countered, but if we both go out invisible, run behind them, and the pick 1 person and blast him, nothing can save you, except a pally bubble, and you would have to be really fast to be able to save yourself in time...
there's a couple problems with this logic. First, when you're invisible, you can't see them any more than they can see you.. You could uncloak right on top of them, in front of them, behind them, or worse, facing the wrong way and your plan is shot.
Also, with classes such as paladins in pvp gear, they are going to have high spell resist, an even higher health pool, and lots of resilience, so you're not going to be hitting them for the 14-15k pyroblast crits that you would a raid boss in pve gear with full raid buffs.
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That is a chance, but if we were to run strait behind where they start, while they are looking for us, we are right behind them. But if they do find us, or something like you said, Insta-Poyoblast, Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath and Fire Bast from 2 people, is MAJOR dps, that can kill almost anyone, unless the are in tanking gear, and in that case, we go for the person with less hp. I mean imagine, you go into an arena, and then u are dead! Let me explain, now I am basing my dps on what I have seen watching my half furious geared brother do 2v2s. So, imagine going into an arena, then 2 insta-poyoblast hit you for about 5k (all of these are not crits) which makes 10k, then blast wave for about 2.5k x 2 = 5k makes 15k then dragon's breath for again about 2.5k x 2 = 5k which makes 20k, then fire blast for about again 2.5k x 2 = 5k which all in all make about 25k dps all instant. Now you all have permission to correct my dps, for I am not yet 80, and am basing it on what I have seen watching my 2 brothers. (who are 80s) But from the way I see it, that can kill just about any healer (which is the 1 we would go for first).
Your plan
could
work, but you're basing your strategy on your opponents keeping on the same path after seeing 2 mages invis before their eyes. :)
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That is a chance, but if we were to run strait behind where they start, while they are looking for us, we are right behind them. But if they do find us, or something like you said, Insta-Poyoblast, Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath and Fire Bast from 2 people, is MAJOR dps, that can kill almost anyone, unless the are in tanking gear, and in that case, we go for the person with less hp. I mean imagine, you go into an arena, and then u are dead! Let me explain, now I am basing my dps on what I have seen watching my half furious geared brother do 2v2s. So, imagine going into an arena, then 2 insta-poyoblast hit you for about 5k (all of these are not crits) which makes 10k, then blast wave for about 2.5k x 2 = 5k makes 15k then dragon's breath for again about 2.5k x 2 = 5k which makes 20k, then fire blast for about again 2.5k x 2 = 5k which all in all make about 25k dps all instant. Now you all have permission to correct my dps, for I am not yet 80, and am basing it on what I have seen watching my 2 brothers. (who are 80s) But from the way I see it, that can kill just about any healer (which is the 1 we would go for first).
this is assuming at all that someone is going to eat all of that damage while his partner just stands there and watches you decimate his partner.
don't get me wrong.. it's a good strategy and all, but there are probably very few times where it would actually work. If you go after the healer, then his partner (dps more than likely) is gonna do stop you.. If you go after the dps in a healer/dps combo, then the healer's gonna sit there and heal him thru it. If you go after one dps in a dps/dps combo, then the other dps is gonna stop you..
it really comes out to the same thing. their partner's not gonna just sit there and let you eat their partner for lunch.. and even if you DO manage to kill their partner, then you both used all of your cooldowns to do so.. what if you're up against a pally or dk? then you're left without any cooldowns for survivability or nuking their partner. a paladin will definitely be sure to wipe the floor with you both while you're recovering from that.
even better.. what if you're up against a dk, decide to go for him and he pops his anti-magic shell while you're wasting your cooldowns on him? or a rogue goes for cloak of shadows and you miss half of your rotation on him? then you used all of your powerhouse spells and did almost no damage to them, leaving them to disembowel you at their leisure.
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Yeah, but we would go invis before the game starts, giving us just enough time to get behind them.
you really think they're gonna sit still and wait for you to sneak up behind them if you invis at the start of the match? thta's just silly.
Yes, I understand that, but it sounds like a good way for a mage to get high in 2v2s, I mean, there are not that many other ways... so why not give it a try? There is always someone who can beat a combo... And it would be REALLY hard to heal through that much burst unless the healer uses all his CDs... like Nature Swiftness... Once I get to 80 and start to try it out, I will post back to tell you all how it goes... and I think it will be pretty good... until then, lets keep this up, this is my first forum, and it seems to be going nicely! Thank you all for contributing to my forum, I hope to keep this up until I can tell you guys how it goes.
well, i wish you luck, but (and no offense to you of course) i really don't think you'll get very far in the arena bracket using a gimmick like this.. and with resilience your burst isn't gonna be anywhere near as much as you think it is.
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