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Engineering DPS, which enchant
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Post by
Anarchy
Just levelled engineering to 410 on my paladin, was wondering which hand enchant offers the best DPS from a PvE standpoint.
Pyro rocket or hyperspeed?
Also what would be more useful in PvP?
Post by
pezz
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=4833
<-- It's here.
Point one here:
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=131546
Post by
Anarchy
I did, I can't find a comparison between the enchants for DPS.
Post by
pezz
Under enchanting under professions:
Rocket is subpar to Strength unless you're out of range or soloing
It's not exactly glaringly obvious, I realize. But there's a ton of information packed into the FAQ so it bears reading pretty carefully.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
haste is subpar to Strength
or Intellect,
Rocket is subpar to Strength
unless you're out of range or soloing
Edit: Damn, beat me.
Post by
pezz
Too slow!
Post by
JemiS
Are you really comparing a BC +15 str enchant to the rockets? 'Cause that's what it sounded like from your FAQ.
Rockets are around 59 DPS, and I really can't see +15 str giving ~59 DPS (number pulled from EJ).
Perhaps you meant to compare it to a gem slot from blacksmithing? But that's still only +20 str, and I would still be surprised if +20 str beat out a raw 60 DPS that isn't on the GCD. Not to mention that the rockets scale with gear to increased DPS, whereas +20 str will always be +20 str.
Post by
114144
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
JemiS
But you kinda have to compare all the bonuses if you're doing it that way.
~59 DPS to gloves, +12 crit rating to boots, and a free AE castable while moving (grenade belt). The writeup from blademeld compares each of the additions to a comparable one, individually.
In addition, the OP didn't ask anything about which profession to choose.
He's already chosen a profession, and asked which of the two enchants would be more DPS- something that is not covered in any of the links given.
Post by
Anarchy
JemiS gets it.
So, the rockets are 60 DPS, how about the hyperspeed accelerators?
Post by
blademeld
Haste scales with your melee DPS, rockets are static DPS increase.
I would go with the rockets because the rocket uses aren't wasted during movement.
Post by
JemiS
Haste scales with your melee DPS, rockets are static DPS increase.
I would go with the rockets because the rocket uses aren't wasted during movement.
I agree with what you are saying, but is there something I don't know that makes the rockets static?
I had heard the scaled with Crit, and either SP or AP or some combination of the two... Was that incorrect?
Post by
frmorrison
I had heard the scaled with Crit, and either SP or AP or some combination of the two... Was that incorrect?
The rocket is a spell (so uses spell crit and spell hit) and is affected by raid buffs that affect spells, but doesn't scale with sp or ap. Rawr says the rocket it is 35 dps better than Crusher. It is off the GCD, so you can macro it with CS so it gets used.
The haste one could be better, but I like the idea of rockets coming out of your hand.
Post by
pezz
I had heard the scaled with Crit, and either SP or AP or some combination of the two... Was that incorrect?
The rocket is a spell (so uses spell crit and spell hit) and is affected by raid buffs that affect spells, but doesn't scale with sp or ap. Rawr says the rocket it is 35 dps better than Crusher. It is off the GCD, so you can macro it with CS so it gets used.
The haste one could be better, but I like the idea of rockets coming out of your hand.
Since it's on a 45 second CD for maximum uptime you'd macro it into Exo. If you put it into CS there'll be a couple seconds before it gets used most of the time, but 15 is exactly divisible by 45.
Post by
Idocreating
I had heard the scaled with Crit, and either SP or AP or some combination of the two... Was that incorrect?
The rocket is a spell (so uses spell crit and spell hit) and is affected by raid buffs that affect spells, but doesn't scale with sp or ap. Rawr says the rocket it is 35 dps better than Crusher. It is off the GCD, so you can macro it with CS so it gets used.
The haste one could be better, but I like the idea of rockets coming out of your hand.
Since it's on a 45 second CD for maximum uptime you'd macro it into Exo. If you put it into CS there'll be a couple seconds before it gets used most of the time, but 15 is exactly divisible by 45.
That is, if you use exorcism everytime it comes off cooldown.
Post by
blademeld
Better yet, macro it into every ability.
Post by
pezz
Extreme overkill for the win.
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