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Post by
Josren
So, I'm trying to be a well rounded Shaman, and since I've played with Enhancement for a VERY long time, and be on and off Restoration for awhile as well, I feel like I've been neglecting Elemental since BC. I understand the rotation, I'm just curious if this spec and Glyph choice is alright...
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#hyhVq0dItGfzAo0xxc:RbpoMV
Of course I welcome any criticism so long as its constructive!
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179111
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Post by
Josren
Well the Flame Shock Glyph is moot if you have 2 pieces of Worldbreaker gear right?
Post by
Modibybob
The flameshock glyph will do you better instead of FT weap. Not by much, but it will.
Take all of your points out of reverberation, take eye of the storm and shamanistic focus. Max out Convection.
Throw down the rotation.
Great success.
May I ask what rotation you're using?
Post by
Josren
I haven't actually gotten to play with the Elemental Spec since BC (theorycrafting on downtime at work), but as I understand it, you use FS->Lava Burst>Clear Cast to Chain Lightning>Lightning Bolt until FS is about to run out, referesh FS, rinse and repeat. That is the proper rotation yes?
Post by
Modibybob
For the most part, yes. A few things I would take into consideration:
- Monitor your clearcasting buff and see if it is up by the time you cast chain lightning after your lava burst. Since LvB has a travel time, it may not hit before your chain lightning is cast, since it does NOT have a travel time. I'm not sure if you are having mana issues or not, but if you are, consider trying this...or simply removing chain lightning completely from a single target rotation. The DPS difference would be very trivial.
Also, never cast CL during Bloodlust...as the global cooldown would be longer than the cast time, and you would actually lose DPS...
Post by
Josren
Thanks for the tips! I'll be running a couple heroics once I get settled at home to test the spec with what gear I have. I'll post the results!
Post by
Gnub
I haven't actually gotten to play with the Elemental Spec since BC (theorycrafting on downtime at work), but as I understand it, you use FS->Lava Burst>Clear Cast to Chain Lightning>Lightning Bolt until FS is about to run out, referesh FS, rinse and repeat. That is the proper rotation yes?
That's indeed correct - although, I would call it a priority-system rather than a rotation :)
Post by
Haxzor
I haven't actually gotten to play with the Elemental Spec since BC (theorycrafting on downtime at work), but as I understand it, you use FS->Lava Burst>Clear Cast to Chain Lightning>Lightning Bolt until FS is about to run out, referesh FS, rinse and repeat. That is the proper rotation yes?
That's indeed correct - although, I would call it a priority-system rather than a rotation :)
Sorry Gnub but you're wrong here.
#1 it's pretty much a rotation
#2 it goes like this FS>LvB>LBx5>LvB>LBx4>repeat
if you don't have mana problems throw in CL every CD. You want LvB to be on CD 100% of the time.
Post by
Sihmm
I haven't actually gotten to play with the Elemental Spec since BC (theorycrafting on downtime at work), but as I understand it, you use FS->Lava Burst>Clear Cast to Chain Lightning>Lightning Bolt until FS is about to run out, referesh FS, rinse and repeat. That is the proper rotation yes?
Well, as Gnub says, it's a priority system:
Your first priority is keeping Flame Shock on your target.
Your second priority is keeping Lava Burst on cooldown.
If FS is up and LvB is on cooldown, you cast Lightning Bolts (or Chain Lightnings) until you need to do 1 or 2 again. Typically you'll have to refresh Flame Shock once for every two Lava Bursts (or three with 2t9).
Also note that Chain Lightning can be a DPS
loss
if using it increases the time between your Lava Burst casts.
Sorry Gnub but you're wrong here.
#1 it's pretty much a rotation
Just to nitpick annoyingly, our DPS
is
actually a priority system and not a rotation. While on paper it does look like we can assemble quite a neat rotation, it only really works in a vacuum. Factor in movement, encounter dynamics or player error (or latency) and the rotation will start to break.
It may seem obvious to us, but if we tell a new player to always execute a rotation then they may, for example, have to move and interrupt an LB cast... but then when they stop moving, keep casting precisely as many LBs as they intended to cast before they were interrupted instead of adjusting for the fact that Lava Burst's cooldown will be over or nearly over, and without having taken the opportunity to refresh Flame Shock while moving.
"Rotations" are also extremely vulnerable to haste variations, particularly temporary haste effects. For example I have enough haste to normally cast 6 Lightning Bolts after my Lava Burst, but during Heroism or a haste trinket proc I'll cast more. They also have to change with the 2t9 or 4t10 set bonuses.
So while we do end up in situations where we seem to be executing a steady and stable rotation, those situations are in fact just us executing our priority queue in stable conditions. Thus it's definitely better to think in terms of "priority" than "rotation".
Post by
Josren
After the first run it seems like the priority system is the correct way to interpret our casting "order". Because of how seriously haste effects our spells I found a large amount of success casting FS > Lava Burst > Cl > LBx2 or 3 > Cl > Lava Burst > FS, rinse and repeat. The Haste procs DO seem to through a wrench in anything resembling a "rotation".
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