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Elemental Shaman or Mage (not sure on spec)?
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Post by
YuriElite
Hello, I was planning to start a new Warlock but yesterday I as talking to someone I just befriended and he says Warlocks are boring, it's true that you have to keep using soul drain for the shards, and he says Elemental Shamans are amazing, well how can that be, they are still the least picked class for a reason, totems suck too after all.
Then there's Mage...it seems like most people favor Frost than any of the other two specs but the damage isn't very good compared with Fire or Arcane, it's like if you want to level and pvp then your best with Frost yet for instances your advised to take up Fire or Frostfire Bolt spec, Arcane just sucks. I mean I like Fire but the casting time for Pyroblast is terrible, by the time you cast the spell, you would of already been dead by now on pvp.
Anyway, I don't want to be a Moonkin and get laughed at and Shadow Priest is a serious bad joke, for Hunters just forget because if you run out of ammo while in an instance then you become useless.
I'm screwed... =(
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Post by
BuryYourDead
Well, Fire mages are good. Mana runs out a bit quick but if you use Mage Armor + Glyph you get 75% mana regen while casting
Post by
YuriElite
Arcane sucks? Really? I've seen plenty pull 5-7k. I'm no mage, but arcane seems like a decent spec.
But Arcane eats the most mana, this is something most people don't like, it's mainly a instance spec as well but the mana usuage is worse than Fire.
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Post by
aerion
Arcane sucks? Really? I've seen plenty pull 5-7k. I'm no mage, but arcane seems like a decent spec.
But Arcane eats the most mana, this is something most people don't like, it's mainly a instance spec as well but the mana usage is worse than Fire.
Maybe I'm not seeing the picture here, but are you planning to make a twink, or are you referring to arcane being a mana hog while leveling?
If it's the former, tough luck, if it's the latter, frost will always beat all other specs while leveling.
Arcane shines (literally) at max level while having the hitcap and some haste. You've got
50% regen
from a talent, a
crit buff
, a
bigger mana pool
with
more spellpower
from it, and so on and so forth.
If you're worried that arcane is mainly an instance/raid spec, then you might be right.. partially... I've used frost for soloing/dailies/etc. until a few months ago because it was the best option, now I use arcane and pretty much one-shot most things.
EDIT: oh and to clarify, arcane at max level never left me hungry for mana, ever. The only times I ever use
Evocation
(down to
2 mins
) is when I burn like mad on things like the Acidmaw and Razorscale...
Post by
YuriElite
Arcane sucks? Really? I've seen plenty pull 5-7k. I'm no mage, but arcane seems like a decent spec.
But Arcane eats the most mana, this is something most people don't like, it's mainly a instance spec as well but the mana usage is worse than Fire.
Maybe I'm not seeing the picture here, but are you planning to make a twink, or are you referring to arcane being a mana hog while leveling?
If it's the former, tough luck, if it's the latter, frost will always beat all other specs while leveling.
Arcane shines (literally) at max level while having the hitcap and some haste. You've got
50% regen
from a talent, a
crit buff
, a
bigger mana pool
with
more spellpower
from it, and so on and so forth.
If you're worried that arcane is mainly an instance/raid spec, then you might be right.. partially... I've used frost for soloing/dailies/etc. until a few months ago because it was the best option, now I use arcane and pretty much one-shot most things.
EDIT: oh and to clarify, arcane at max level never left me hungry for mana, ever. The only times I ever use
Evocation
(down to
2 mins
) is when I burn like mad on things like the Acidmaw and Razorscale...
I'm on about the latter but I'm someone who doesn't want to waste money on respecs and getting 1000 gold for duel specs is something only a level 80 can get, really I don't like Frost, I think that's forcing people to spec for something that does very little damage.
Post by
Animer
... Warlocks are boring...
... Elemental Shamans are amazing, well how can that be..., totems suck too after all...
Sorry but have to disagree with you on both statements. Warlocks have different ways of dpsing and saying warlocks is boring it would be more accurate saying dps is boring since all dps classes end up the same meaning once you have your max dps rotation, you just repeat it the whole time.
Totems suck? sorry don't agree with you there. I love the buff you get from shammy's totems, it helps allot in the dps department
Then there's Mage...it seems like most people favor Frost than any of the other two specs but the damage isn't very good compared with Fire or Arcane, it's like if you want to level and pvp then your best with Frost yet for instances your advised to take up Fire or Frostfire Bolt spec, Arcane just sucks. I mean I like Fire but the casting time for Pyroblast is terrible, by the time you cast the spell, you would of already been dead by now on pvp.
Frost is good for pvp and leveling but its damage is not as bad as you say. If I remember correctly they are crit casters and best spec for mana usage.
Arcane suck, uh wrong again, I'm not going to debate this.
Pyroblast terrible? how? There are 2 ways of using it, 1 by pollymorph then pyroblast or 2 buy specing into arcane to get
Presence of Mind
to instant Pyroblast
Anyway, I don't want to be a Moonkin and get laughed at and Shadow Priest is a serious bad joke, for Hunters just forget because if you run out of ammo while in an instance then you become useless.
Why would you get laughed at for being moonkin? They deal good dps and the 3%haste, 3%hit and 5% crit for caster is nothing short than awesome for party/raid buffs
Shadow Priest a joke? Again I don't agree with you, while its true they don't deal the most dps, they are very valuable mana battery's and again very usefull for buffs.
And lastly saying you don't want to be hunter cause if you run out of ammo you're useless. Yes that's true and I agree, but that's like being a 5k mana pool mage, lock, priest, shammy, etc. That's not a good enough reason to not play a class since how hard is it to keep track of ammo? If you can't keep track of ammo then take engineering as a profession and farm till you can make Jeeve's. Then when you run out you can summon him and buy some ammo
TBH I think you need to roll a melee class since you are not open to any range classes. Roll a retridin, furywar, enhance shammy (o wait, totems suck), rouge or DK. I would say feral druid but I think the rotation would be to hard for you
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Post by
YuriElite
like...seriously? just check your quiver from time to time, you can carry a metric crap-ton of ammo in there, just restock every time you go to town if you're really worried
What and waste all my bag slots?
What is your Main anyway?
I've got a level 63 Balance Druid, it's ok but I'm crap against Melee Classes, all my spells are useless and the tree guys don't always get the job done.
Post by
YuriElite
I'm stuck then, I don't like Melee Classes due to them being very hard to play on pvp and therefore I can't proceed with WoW. =(
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Post by
CDRToast
Most of my characters have been ranged (particularly the hunter flavor)
But I have been leveling a Ret Pally, and wow ... it's fun to blow stuff up, and not have to worry about mana... I only really get in trouble when I try to pull too many mobs at once, even then you have your Full bubble, your instant cast full heal, and .. yeah... fun stuff... kinda hard to die.
(but since i'm still pretty much a noob at melee, I can get myself killed if i'm not careful)
I did play an enhancement Shaman for a while, it's rough stuff until you hit 40 and get Dual wield, then at 41 you get storm strike... that was the moment I decided i really liked playing a shaman.
Oh yeah, self rez, heals, and if you're specced for it, you have instant cast Ghost wolf, good times too...
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Post by
YuriElite
theres only couple reasons, as to why someone would say arcane sucks:
- never played a mage
- dont know how to play a mage
Why would they say Arcane sucks if they have never played a Mage?
Anyway, it seems like Shaman or Mage are turning out to be the best but I'm not still not sure on Shaman because most people only want them as healers. =(
Post by
ZoraLink
theres only couple reasons, as to why someone would say arcane sucks:
- never played a mage
- dont know how to play a mage
Why would they say Arcane sucks if they have never played a Mage?
Anyway, it seems like Shaman or Mage are turning out to be the best but I'm not still not sure on Shaman because most people only want them as healers. =(
Then don't heal.
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