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here
you go
iLvl 245+ cloaks with strength, there're a few tanking ones in there but you shouldn't have trouble distinguishing them
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marklartank
don't be afraid of agility cloaks, especially those with sockets.
the agility converts to crit, and in a lot of cases will still win out over the strength cloaks. you didn't say what spec you were, by the way.
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Rubendesmet619
Need=need, easy as that.
And yea, Razor25/Anub25 are your best bets.
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Fakir
With regards to +agi cloaks, should I roll on them if a rogue is also going for it? Cos I know I'd be a bit @#$%ed if a rogue rolled on a +str cloak. Well, rogues have no benefit at all from strength, while agility gives warriors increased crit chance. Ofc. you can roll for gear with agility if they are an upgrade to your DPS.
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Porcell
With regards to +agi cloaks, should I roll on them if a rogue is also going for it? Cos I know I'd be a bit @#$%ed if a rogue rolled on a +str cloak. Well, rogues have no benefit at all from strength, while agility gives warriors increased crit chance. Ofc. you can roll for gear with agility if they are an upgrade to your DPS.
Pretty sure rogues still get 1 AP from strength (at least they did years ago when I played my rogue mainly). Regardless though, there are more than enough Agility cloaks that a rogue should never really want a Strength one.
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Porcell
Cloaks with Strength are pretty rare, and GOOD cloaks with Strength are even more rare. Seeing as Warriors basically like Crit and Armor Pen (and I suppose hit/expertise if they need it), and seeing as Agility converts to Crit, it's completely expected that Warriors are seen wearing Agility cloaks.
http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-6&filter=si=1;cr=20:42:45;crs=1:4:4;crv=0:0:0#0-2+1
For epic cloaks with Strength, starting at the low iLvls, you have Crit/Haste (ToC5N), Crit/Arp (Mimiron10N), Crit/Haste (Ignis10N), Crit/Hit (Algalon10), Crit/Arp (Razorscale), Crit/Hit (Algalon25), and Crit/Hit (Anub25 and Tribute Cloak).
You'll find a lot of Agility cloaks with Crit/Arp, and if they have a socket it's even better.
I guess I've never seen a problem (and never seen the issue raised in a raid) with Strength using classes taking Agility cloaks, even if it is in competition with Rogue/Hunter/Druid.
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Porcell
That's great ty all for the input. Will now keep eyes on all melée dps cloaks. Also if there is anything else with my gear spec etc that I can improve on pls help :-) and again tyvm.
You logged in your Prot gear and Spec. Want me to comment on that?
You have some Hit/Stamina gems, which are unnecessary (and even more unnecessary since you are at 8.66% hit) and should be Defense/Stamina.
The Strength/Stamina gem in your legs should be Expertise/Stamina, especially since you are at only 20 expertise.
Your chest enchant, most would agree that +275 health is a better choice than 10 stats.
My only other comment is that the Onyxia trinket is not a good trinket to use in general circumstances. However, I notice that you are pretty short on Defense since you are using both Peacekeeper's Blade and Mark of the Relentless, so you need that trinket to stay above the defense minimum. You would need 51 more defense rating in order to drop your trinket. You can manage this by replacing the Hit/Stam gems with Def/Stam in your Helm, Legs, and Boots (+30), and putting the +22 defense enchant on your chest (+22 more for +52 total).
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pak52b
I feel your pain on the cloak. In all of ulduar, I have never seen a dps cloak drop, and the times in totc, RNG was not on my side ^^
Well, I'm not Porcell, but I'll comment anyways:
You have 3 blue gems. Blue are pretty much the worst dps gems you can get, and generally should be used only if going for the meta, or needed go get some mega socket bonus. People also say (I know I'm still using the other one) that using the 21 Agi meta gem and only one blue is a larger dps increase. (In reality, the difference is pretty small tho..).
I would recommend getting +22 Agi on the cloak instead of haste. Haste is also pretty much the "worst" stat for a fury warrior. Granted, haste is nice to have, and if it's free, don't pass it up - just don't gem or enchant for it unless neccessary.
You're slightly under the hit and expertise cap. Being under the soft cap basically (of course, RNG may favor you... ) means that each percent you are under the caps, will be a percent of missed or dodged attacks. That in turn means that each % under cap means you are doing 1% less damage, because they apply to ALL attacks. So getting those caps is really nice. Just don't "overgem" or anything.
Spec is nice, can't find anything to complain about (as a matter of fact, it reminded me that I have been meaning to respec ^^ lazy me). What i WOULD reccomend, is getting the glyph of heroic strike instead of execute. As fury, you're going to be spamming HS as a rage dump in raids, and not having that will probably hurt your dps. In a heroic, you probably will only need it on bosses.
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Porcell
Ty Porcell for the advice on my tanking kit, to be perfectly honest it's a off spec I don't use a huge amount, I logged out quick in that gear after helping out friends in naxx10. But ty for the comments any way. I am now logged out in my dps set so a critique like that on my dps set would be most welcome.
Again ty for ur time.
Spec is fine, though I prefer Commanding Presence (+1 Heroic Fury) to the 3 in Imp Demo and 3 in Imp Cleave. I'd also prefer Bloodthirst to Cleave Glyph, but it doesn't really matter either way there. Like pak52b said, Glyph of Heroic Strike over Execute; I really don't execute much as fury.
Enchants all look good, except for the cloak which should be agility. You could also go Icewalker on boots since you are a little below where you need to be on Hit. Matching the socket on the ring isn't that good, +20 strength would be better.
You have 3 Strength(Expertise)/Stamina gems, AND a Nightmare Tear, but you only need 2 to activate your Meta. Of the four pieces, you'd want to go for the +6 Strength on the belt and +6 Strength on the boots. So I'd switch the chest Exp/Stam into a +20 Expertise, the keep the belt the same, drop the Nightmare Tear into the Boots, and put a +20 Expertise into the Legs.
Swapping around the blue gems like this will give you -30 Stamina, -12 Crit Rating, and +20 Expertise, which will get you a little closer to the 26 expertise you need.
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