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Erethzium
Making Disc priests use two spells they don't use often? =/ Doesn't sound good to me, and I don't even play Disc.
the Flash Heal part sounds OK, but a little OP, at 50%...
Post by
ande9249
I like the idea of restricting it to "crits of a spell" but ange is right that even 50% of crits might be a bit large and would lend towards bad playstyles.
I would say instead lets not make it a behavior requiring talent, lets instead say
"5/5 Inspiring Confidence: Your PW:S spell has a chance equal to your crit chance to having the weakened soul debuff reduced by 2/4/6/8/10 sec"
(looking back on it now, might not need it tied to crit, but eh)
yeah it will make disc priests even more crit junkies than we already are, but at least it doesnt work against our current gameplay. Not to mention that it would be a huge commitment for priests to have 5 sec weakend souls...
the only other solution I can think of right now is to instead give us ANOTHER CD:
"Revitalizing Confidence: Your PW:S spell has its weakened soul effect reduced by 13 sec. Effect lasts for 16-24 sec 2-3 min CD"
which could then give disc healers the ability to "burst mitigate" on a single target because if you popped it would would have PWS->hasted GH->PWS->hasted GH->PWS->hasted GH->PWS->hasted GH inside of that effect on a single target....not game or class changing, but a fun ability for certain
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ande9249
yes, i am going to comment on my other post....get over it.
having the first talent scale in both % chance and duration reduction might be the better way to go so that at 5/5 you can have X% chance to reduce reduction by Y amount, having it based on crit was just a necessary step for evolution of the thread.
The CD was designed to still have a weakend soul for a reason: to encourage people to not forget about the haste bonus given by PWS. 2 sec is a good marker because it is more than a GCD but shorter than even hasted GH, Thus technically making this a "tank healing CD" rather than the more multipurpose talents presented.
I also acknowledge that I provide NO accounting for disc priests being able to reduce weakened souls of targets that were not weakened by that specific priest. The OP spell could potentially work in that if you have two crit heavy disc priests, both priests could "dispell" the weakened soul during their FH spamming, let alone a bunch of other situations in raid healing where you want to shield a person, but cant, and so you throw FH's until you can....either by proc or by usual time run out....
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ande9249
hmmm, personally the first three of the second batch sound good, the issue with dispell/mass is that when the general populace of disc priests reads about it, they will be using dispell specifically for WS, while it should work that it is simply a "convience"....
As for the PvP concerns I apologize....very little experience in PvP, though the experience I have had lead me to say "is a crying rouge in the fetal position a bad thing?"
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Erethzium
Making Disc priests use two spells they don't use often? =/ Doesn't sound good to me, and I don't even play Disc.
the Flash Heal part sounds OK, but a little OP, at 50%...
You don't flash often? What do you do in between Penance CD's on the tank?
I was talking about Greater Heal, not Flash Heal.
Post by
ZoraLink
Why would you want Weakened Soul off your target prematurely? Shielding the same person more often than once every 15 seconds is not going to be good for your mana; besides, Weakened Soul gives +4% crit.
On a completely unrelated note, am I the only one that's noticed that PW:S costs 666 mana?
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Crawshayi
Me too. That's odd.
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Erethzium
On a completely unrelated note, am I the only one that's noticed that PW:S costs 666 mana?
Same. Disc priests are good healers, man. So good that they're sinful.
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Crawshayi
for you..maybe
For everyone, it seems. I just looked it up and Base Mana is shared among each class (source:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Base_mana
). Furthermore, read the last comment at
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48066#comments
and see the math for how it comes to 666. Truly an evil talent.
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