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Synectics
I love the prayer, it saved my butts so many times. Dead healer = no healer. And honestly, I wouldn't know where I should put that point. Healing Focus would be the only talent where I could move that single point to, but I haven't found spell interruption to be a problem as disco ;).
^ this.
Don’t know if I am being bad or just not really a difference maker. When I usually die the raid is dead.
See? There's your problem -- you're dying. Desperate Prayer is meant to prevent that. :)
Post by
Crysania
This used to be a human/dwarf priest racial before it was a talent, so I've always spec'd it as I know it has saved me quite often. I preferred it back when it cost no mana (despite the 10 min cd), but it's still very useful in its current form. I've found that it will heal me for nearly twice what I get from a health pot or healthstone, and about 1k more than a Binding Heal without the cast time (which is great if you need a heal on the run).
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Post by
Patty
I love the prayer, it saved my butts so many times. Dead healer = no healer. And honestly, I wouldn't know where I should put that point. Healing Focus would be the only talent where I could move that single point to, but I haven't found spell interruption to be a problem as disco ;).
QFT.
Post by
semperfi
I use it when I get so low that a random hit would kill me or I am moving. It has saved me many times but other times it just sits there and does nothing because I manage not to get any dmg. I wouldn't spec without it.
Post by
Zhivago
Casting it when moving is really sweet since it heals me up.
Post by
Synectics
I use it when I get so low that a random hit would kill me
or I am moving
. It has saved me many times but other times it just sits there and does nothing because I manage not to get any dmg. I wouldn't spec without it.
Bolded the most beautiful time to use this. I know plenty of priests who love it for the safety dance in Naxx -- not everyone has a great ping, and so eventually they get caught in a blast. But bam, Desperate Prayer, and they're full health.
Post by
ZoraLink
I think it's silly for raiding, but that's probably cus I'm discipline and prefer just casting a shield on myself.
Post by
Synectics
I think it's silly for raiding, but that's probably cus I'm discipline and prefer just casting a shield on myself.
Glyphed, PW:S is only going to heal about 1k, and mitigation is
not
healing. If you just got done taking a 10k hit, I'd say Desperate Prayer > PW:S.
A raid situation is all the more reason to have it. In an AOE phase, it helps a LOT to top yourself off with a Desperate Prayer, as opposed to wasting a Penance on yourself instead of the tank, or counting on another healer to keep you topped off. Let's face it -- if they don't top you off, and you die... sure, it's their fault, but it means you try again. Topping yourself off means lootz and purpz. :)
Really, I don't think there's any reason not to get it. It's only one point -- what is your one point going into that is better than potentially avoiding a wipe? :D
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ZoraLink
I think it's silly for raiding, but that's probably cus I'm discipline and prefer just casting a shield on myself.
Glyphed, PW:S is only going to heal about 1k, and mitigation is
not
healing. If you just got done taking a 10k hit, I'd say Desperate Prayer > PW:S.
A raid situation is all the more reason to have it. In an AOE phase, it helps a LOT to top yourself off with a Desperate Prayer, as opposed to wasting a Penance on yourself instead of the tank, or counting on another healer to keep you topped off. Let's face it -- if they don't top you off, and you die... sure, it's their fault, but it means you try again. Topping yourself off means lootz and purpz. :)
Really, I don't think there's any reason not to get it. It's only one point -- what is your one point going into that is better than potentially avoiding a wipe? :D
That's why you pre shield. Or, if it's an AoE phase and you've already taken hits, shield + renew works as well. I've never had a situation where it would have saved me though, so... yeah.
Post by
turkey
When I usually die the raid is dead.
On the money. As disc, 99% of the time I'm one of the last people to die. Binding Heal is so much better, and if you need to heal on the move just shield yourself and/or Renew/ProM like Zora said.
If you really do find yourself needing this spell on a somewhat regular basis in pve, all I can say is move out of or away from whatever is damaging you. Healer aggro is a thing of the past. If aoe is killing you, recruit some capable raid healers.
I specced out of this months ago as disc, but I would take it for holy considering the overall squishiness of the spec. But even as holy I never remember to use it....
Post by
Ljillikoard
when big aoe hits (like almost anyfight ulduar and up) this is great to pop before u start a PoH, or some other raid healing sequence (CoH, FH, FH, ren, ren, PoM, CoH...) so u make sure u dont get randomly hit with stuff and die (e.a. stupid add hits on u cuz tank is lagging at kolo and he decides to eyeballbeam u to death...)
I use this like almost every fight (mostly cuz it has a big crit chance as well - seen it heal 15k and upwards)
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Post by
Paolo
my shields absorb upwards of 9k.
Lol.
i often forget to use my healthstones as well. Lol.
its much easier to pop a shield and renewAm I the only one afflicted with Weakened Soul? Can you all tell me how to spec out of this debuff? Shield is a fantastic tool (of course), but you have more emergency-response mechanisms in your bag of tricks.
If you (like many people here, apparently) forget to use DP (and/or healthstones), it's not the end of the world. You can totally succeed in many encounters using only our core tools (Flash/PoM/Penance/Shield, and a few others). But why not learn to use everything you've got? Almost every tool has a situation that calls for it. Priests are the most versatile healer -- in theory, anyway. But versatility means complexity, which means you need to practice using all your tools or you'll forget you have them.
to be quite honest there has never really been a situation where it would have saved me.
I use it all the time. But I'm bad, so don't take me too seriously.
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Post by
Synectics
why would i ever use DP unless im shadow. please explain why im going to spend 1k mana on something that will heal me for less than a renew which only costs 550?
Because DP heals instantly, while Renew ticks? o_O
I really don't see where the problem is here. It's a one point talent, and is far more useful than it is useless.
If you don't need it -- fine, great. But to say it is a useless ability is just ignorant. Not all of us are uber-leet raiders who have the perfect group who knows perfectly how to play. Some of us have bad raid healers; some of us are still learning fights; some of just simply like the safety net.
Personally, my bubble only absorbs ~5k, so during AOE phases, it's certainly not going to save me. I use DP, and save my Penance for the tank, or a healer who forgot about themselves.
Again, you can list plenty of reasons to use DP, and plenty of times where it's been useful. Why wouldn't you add another tool to your box?
Post by
Paolo
my shields absorb upwards of 9k.
Lol.
not too sure whats funny...Cause I'm geared in mostly 226 and my shields max out around 7500. I stack only spellpower, not a single int gem, have the 4pc bonus, dragon soul and broodmother fully stacked, 25-man buffs, yada yada. Can you link armory?
Am I the only one afflicted with Weakened Soul? Can you all tell me how to spec out of this debuff?
its called not shielding yourself unless you need it. or maybe instead of practicing with that bag of tricks you could polish response time.I already acknowledged I'm bad. I have no reflexes and I ensure the WS debuff is always on, cause it's so pretty. Stupid bag of tricks...I just like playing with toys, no matter how useless they are, ok?
If you (like many people here, apparently) forget to use DP (and/or healthstones), it's not the end of the world.
why would i ever use DP unless im shadow. please explain why im going to spend 1k mana on something that will heal me for less than a renew which only costs 550?Oh, I spec'd into the
instant
Desperate Prayer. Forgot to mention, sorry.
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