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LookOut
I've been demo ever since I created my lock as well. He is my alt though, but here goes anyways:
Improved Demonic Tactics: Is your Pact uptime really that bad? Between DT (10%) and the obligatory 2t9 (another 10%) your personal spellcrit would have to be >33% for the FG to get similar benefit from 3/3 IDT. Which leads to the question, are you really stacking for crit as demo? Get moar spellpower.
Some people don't have 2t9 (yet). And your sentence doesn't really make sense tbh. Why should iDT be similar to DT+2t9? I don't really check out DT uptime that much (my bad, I know), but a little extra crit never hurts. I just like my FG critting :D
2/3 Molten Core: People are still hashing this one out for the highest gearlevels, but it's really only relevant for Immolate, Demon Aura, and weaving Soulfire.
And buffing 3 spells isn't enough for you? o_O
Destructive Reach 2/2: Two points is definitely pushing it. Warlocks do (or did, it seems to have changed somewhat) have threat issues, most especially very proccy and crit-based ones. Running without, if everything fires just right (you pop meta and start your weave during BL and *everything* procs) and you crit streak, enjoy your view of boss crotch. Lately I haven't had issues w tanks losing the race, and I definitely can't justify putting that second point here when it could go to more blasties. That first point does give you some leeway learning to weave, though. It's like training wheels.
This is more for the crit-happy destro locks. Demo locks share aggro with their FG, so if you pull aggro off your tank, then that's one crappy tank. Your tank should have a sufficient lead in threat by the time BL + cd's is used, so again aggro should not be pulled...
Post by
ubersmurf
Some people don't have 2t9 (yet). And your sentence doesn't really make sense tbh.
Ok, a simpler way to put it would be: Do you really need this? 2t9 and DP gives you a 23-26% ish crit rate on the FG afaik, which is more than enough to generally refresh the buff before expiration. otoh, for fights where the demon is likely to be periodically unable to strike, I can really see the utility of this talent.
As far as the comparison to crit gear goes: the value of this talent scales with your crit rate, (not rating, actual rate. stupid DR) and crit isn't high up on the demo weight scales. SP and haste trump it quite soundly, especially considering that you'll be picking some up without even trying, due to how dps caster items are set up.
This is more for the crit-happy destro locks. Demo locks share aggro with their FG, so if you pull aggro off your tank, then that's one crappy tank. Your tank should have a sufficient lead in threat by the time BL + cd's is used, so again aggro should not be pulled...
Admittedly, I've been running in pugs since my guild exploded, and my server is not the happiest place for aspiring raiders in the first place. (worst. progression. ever.) I have real concerns with pulling off tanks until I know how that player operates. And the range from 1 point really does put training wheels on weaving. At least until the PTR version of Decimation goes live.
All that being said, this thread is inspiring me to tinker with my spec yet again...
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