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Combat Swords Rogue, Fury Warrior, or Enhancement Shaman?
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xcrunr1647
So...you can see all of my characters in my signature. I am going to start a low-level alt to play when I simply cannot stand the boredom of leveling any more (it will probably be a little while, but once all three are in Northrend I'm gonna get really bored really fast...), and I am trying to pick between a Human (though I am considering Dwarf) Fury Warrior, Human Combat Swords Rogue, or Draenei Enhancement Shaman.
I am looking for the class with the best balance of maximum PvE dps and survivability, coupled with minimum downtime. I plan on soloing mostly, wit the occassional group only to complete quests in instances, or get specific pieces of gear. I have played a Warrior to 28, Rogue to 35, and Shaman to 44 in the past, but they all got deleted (long story). I really enjoyed all three classes, and I have no doubt that in time I will create all of them, but for the moment I would like to only make one.
Obviously the Rogue and Warrior won't ever have to worry about mana, but being able to heal is a powerful tool for a melee dps class like an Enhancement Shaman. Like I said, I have played all of these classes in the past, but I would like the opinions of people who have played these classes (and specs, I'm pretty much set in stone that I want these specs...don't try to convince me to go Sub, Prot, and especially not Resto!) to 60+
I can't make up my mind. Help me!
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xcrunr1647
I forgot to mention, I plan on getting the professions skinning and herbalism no matter which class I pick...my motivation for this is that I am experimenting to see how much cash I have available at 70, but obviously the crit rating will be helpful for all three classes, and the HoT will be huge for the Rogue and Warrior.
Thanks for your reply...how is an Enhancement Shaman as a farmer? Being able to pop ghost wolf and dash from node to node (herbalism) while stopping to kill skinnable mobs in the way seems like it would be very profitable, especially if I will be capable of nuking the mobs down that quickly.
I guess my follow-up question for you is this: so Enhancement Shamans don't excel at dps or survivability in endgame...but are they efficient/effective farmers?
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Nivrax
Mining + skinning seems more valuable to me, especially than even low level ore sells good (while you vendor Silverleafs and similiar), but it is not what you asked...
I never played shaman, but as hybrid they have edge over others (selfhealing), rogue aren't bad (with good gear that is), but tends to be boring later on (they don't like fighting multiple mobs, unless you pop all CDs and even then they will be low on hp). And Warriors are just oppossite of easy leveling.
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Lorkin
So...you can see all of my characters in my signature. I am going to start a low-level alt to play when I simply cannot stand the boredom of leveling any more
Not to derail your idea, but why create YET another alt if you hate leveling? Just get one to 80 and start doing heroics / raids.
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xcrunr1647
So...you can see all of my characters in my signature. I am going to start a low-level alt to play when I simply cannot stand the boredom of leveling any more
Not to derail your idea, but why create YET another alt if you hate leveling? Just get one to 80 and start doing heroics / raids.
It's not that I hate leveling per se...quite the opposite, in fact, I think it's fun. But having all my toons relatively close together in levels (especially the dk and druid), make quest grinding pretty boring because when I go to do a quest, it feels like I
just
did it, know what I mean? I skipped Netherstorm, Blades Edge Mountains, and the Shadowmoon Valley on my hunter, so the next toon to 70 I'm taking there.
Basically, it feels like I'm doing the same quests over and over...it's way faster, since I know exactly where to go and what to do, but the *boring* factor gets pretty bad. So, I just want something different. A Draenei Shaman will be way different, because I've never leveled a Draenei before, and the last time I quested in Ashenvale and Desolace was almost a year and a half ago.
I have every intention of focusing on one toon while I can, but once the rested xp runs out, it becomes almost painful. SO...I plan to use up the rested xp on all three toons (its gonna be a while before I log on, so they will all have the full 1.5 levels), then roll the shaman--or rogue/warrior if someone can convince me they would be better--but right now I'm leaning shaman.
@ Nivrax: There is no doubt that low-level ore sells better than low-level herbs, but between that fact that high-level herbs tend to sell better than high-level ore (please correct me if it is the other way around on your server), and the extra heal, herbalism seems like the smarter option for leveling...especially if I go with the warrior or rogue.
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xcrunr1647
Another vote for Enhancement shaman. If you've already got a cat druid, leveling a rogue might not present much of anything new.
Enhancement is mostly melee with a dash of magic. You've got Lightning Bolt to pull from a distance, shocks for utility and extra damage, and totems for some very strong buffs when in a group. Also, you can always switch specs if you want to try ranged magic DPS or healing.
Since draenei have a racial HoT and shamans can heal themselves, I'd also go mining/skinning to max out your cash while you level.
You're not alone on having a whole bunch of alts to level. I ran a crapload of heroics with my shaman to outfit a lowbie priest, rogue, warrior, and druid.
Well, I leveled a rogue to 35 and a shaman to 44 (combat and enhancement) but they both got deleted =/
So I was just seeing what people had to say. Great summary of enhancement =)
I need to get one of my toons to 80 so I can get heirloom armor/weps etc.
I think I'm gonna go herbalism/skinning though. Aside from the fact that my dk is Inscription and has no source of herbs aside from the AH (too expensive for my taste), I have always found when I try to level a toon's mining, I get stonewalled around when I level up to silver.
Herbalism is usually better money in the endgame, on my server anyway. Even though I am well shy of endgame on all my toons (especially on the shaman--he's level 5 at the moment) I've never done it before. Another mana-free HoT can't hurt either right?
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nicalapegus
Enh Shaman.
Totems/Heroism/Bloodlust ftw.
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xcrunr1647
You need to get one of your toons to 80. Not for the heirloom items, but so you can see things you've been missing. I know leveling is fun in its own right, but you're not getting a real view of the classes. You deleted an enhancement shaman at 44? That's just when the class is starting to get interesting.
Take priest for example. That's one of those classes that changes dramatically as a player progresses in levels. If a person quits on a priest at level 20 because it's boring, well... no *!@# sherlock, you haven't even begun to experience the class. I love when people say things like, "Healing is boring." Then, I look at their vast pool of experience and it's something like RFC + WC. /facepalm
Level up your attention span. You might see the game in a completely different light.
rant=
I didn't delete it. Read my profile, it explains in relative detail. I was furious when I saw what had happened. Nonetheless, I never said anything about hating healing...quite the contrary, I think it can be really exciting to heal a tough instance, make it through and know that you were a major contributor.
I was gone from the game for significantly more than a year...I'm still just getting used to it again, I've only logged on half a dozen times in the past 3 weeks. With so many things that have changed (aside from WOTLK's introduction), I feel almost like I need to re-learn all my classes again.
Don't lecture me on my attention span. As you said yourself, it is a "game". I highly doubt I will have time for raiding after I hit 80...and I no longer enjoy PvP as much as I used to. Why rush to 80? I'm in no hurry. I went from 66 to 70 in a single day on my hunter...and then realized that what I was doing felt like work, not a game. I play the way I play because it is
fun
. I'll hit 80 in my own sweet time, and enjoy every minute of it. I'll craft the best gear that I can, run some 5 man dungeons, do some battlegrounds...all in fun.
My enhancement shaman was one of the most fun classes I had played...if anything, in the long run I'm almost glad he got deleted, because he was Horde, and my irl friends nearly all play Alliance. Now I can roll a Draenei on the same server as all my other toons (and my friends).
You will never find me dissing someone's playstyle, because I've played them all (granted, the last time I played some of them was back in Vanilla WoW, but that experience still counts for something). I've been the healer with a great group, and the one whose tank doesn't even know what defensive stance is--at level 36. I've been the dps-turned-tank that saves the group's run on the last boss because the MT didn't know the fight and never even bothered to ask about it or let us know he had never done the instance before. And I've been the tank that had to deal with moronic dps trying to solo every other mob, getting themselves killed, then leaving me to try and save the healer who tried to heal them out of it.
/rant
Anyway, thanks to everyone who replied...I made a Human Rogue and a Draenei Shaman, and I pla to take my time and have fun with it. I'm going to focus on my Hunter, Death Knight, and Druid before I put any serious time into those two. All three of them have the full 1.5 levels of rest, so it will take me quite a while to use it all up as long as I continue to quest-grind. Questhelper ftw!
Starting this Thursday I ought to be able to log some serious playtime...I hope to have the hunter to at least 74, the DK to 65 or 66, and the druid to 65 by the end of the weekend.
Thanks again for all the replies.
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xcrunr1647
So the answer to your dilemma was to roll everything -- multiple times. I'm not psychic, but I predict you're just going to burn yourself out on the game. You're like a hamster picking which wheel he wants to run in today. (Groundhog Day, anyone?)
I started playing in Vanilla WoW, and just got back from a one-year hiatus...I won't get burned out anytime soon.
Why not roll a warrior too? Or are you just holding that gem back for when you're REALLY bored. ;)
I did...twinked out at 29...he got deleted as well =/
I just find it ironic that someone that complains about the boredom of leveling is stuck in a repetitive cycle of leveling. Think about it. It's like saying you hate doing the laundry then going into business cleaning clothes for a living. It's like you're setting yourself up for misery, and then wondering why you're miserable.
This thread was not meant to be a complaint...just a place to obtain the opinions of other players with more experience than me in the respective classes I mentioned.
I know you say you're having fun, but you don't come across as someone that's enjoying himself.
Thus, the pleas for other people to help
. This line is a direct quote, "I am going to start a low-level alt to play when I simply cannot stand the boredom of leveling any more." Does that sound like a rational statement of someone having fun with the game? I really don't think so.
Pleas for help? No. Requesting opinions? Yes. The only reason I make a "crapton" of threads is because my computer is broken...and I haven't gotten a new one for school yet, since I don't leave until mid-August. Trust me, if I could log on, I wouldn't be posting as much.
And if it wasn't fun, I wouldn't be doing it...
In any case. Good luck.
Thank you =)
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xcrunr1647
This thread was never meant to turn into an argument, I apologize to everyone subjected to it.
If a mod would like to lock the thread as it appears to be going off topic, I completely understand.
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