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CoH glyph vs. PW:S glyph
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OscarDivine
PWS Glyph and CoH Glyph are Apples and Oranges. TBH I don't think a Holy priest should raid anywhere without a CoH glyph handy, but that's just my opinion. You might be tank healing, but I don't bubble all that much as Holy. If your play style has you using tons of bubbles, healing tanks, and using a crap load of flash heals, I'm gonna say the following:
You are a Disco Priest in a Holy Priest's spec. Just switch and get it over with. ;-) It's okay to come out of the Disco Closet here, we're all friends.
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Why do you ask why I haven't gone disco yet? I'm not very familiar with discipline, however, I am considering starting arenas for the 1st time and I'm way too lazy to keep respecing back and forth. How would going disco affect my healing for raids besides the obvious loss of my lightwell etc.?
Disciplines is considered an excellent single target healing spec. A Holy Priest is more of a Raid Healer, which is what our tools allow us to do best. As Disciplines, you will be able to heal your MT or OT extremely efficiently and have better tools to do so than Holy (as many would argue).
As I mentioned above, it actually sounds like you are playing your holy priest as if it were Disciplines. Use of Bubbles and single target healing is what Disciplines priests excel at. Holy priests have their forte in group healing. I would read the Disco threads and consider making the switch. :-) You may find it's a better fit for you as a player, and even more fun! (After all, isn't that why we all play this game?)
edit: antropas, you must have beaten me to the post by mere seconds...
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Aldones
and guess what your shield as disc will be basically TWICE as strong!
The shield isn't quite that strong. Holy and Shadow will have a shield about 2/3 of Disc's.
Formula for Holy/Shadow (2200 sp)
Total absorption = * 1.05
Total absorption = * 1.05
Total absorption = 4189.5
Formula for Discipline (2200 sp)
Total absorption = * 1.09 * 1.15
Total absorption = * 1.09 * 1.15
Total absorption = 6104.545
Holy and Shadow will technially have a little more b/c due to getting sp from spirit, they'll have a little more sp than Disc.
Edit: Seina, it would help if you posted a link to your armory so we could figure out which gear you would be best suited for switching out.
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Quicksilver
well since your tank healing i would definently go disc just realize you won't be on top the meters but it never mattered to me meters are silly most the time i just use it for overheal done so i can do less next time to save mana
but good thing unlike palladin healer you always got your base priest spells like prayer of mending and prayer of healing to help a little with the raid and not to mention next patch you can cast power word shield all the time and stackable divine aegitis(tons more migation)+renewed hope will be 3% less damage on the whole raid when you cast power:word shield you also gain haste+crit+some mana when it breaks its a very nice shield:) and we get improved flash heal next patch and penance will be castable on yourself. grace will be one target only but still its a nice tool for the tank or yourself. idk disc looks awesome next patch and our gear isn't as diffrent from holy as it is now but still you gotta kinda swich alot of haste for crit since we have penance and shield theres not as much need for it but then again we have group castable PoH next patch so mabye im wrong.
well anyways im sure it won't hurt to try disc out it might be you fave spec:) oh and check out the disc guide in my signiture it helps but it dosen't help with next patch but for this patch its perfect.
wow im such a horrid speller lol
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Darcalmeida
i was holy, changued all my guear for disc, I LOVED IT! even for raid heals it is good! my mana almost never ends
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razzem
I personally think that PW:S is too expensive to cast as a Holy priest. With Soul Warding, your PW:S costs 14.4% base mana. Without, it costs 23%. So as a holy priest, you'd have to scrap Guardian Spirit for Soul Warding. If you are casting PW:S without Soul Warding (or the current Rapture in 3.0.8) your mana will be taking a big hit. When you get deep into Disc, you're PW:S gets another 40% stronger with Borrowed Time, adding a helpful chunk of change to glyph of PW:S.
So overall, if you are holy without Soul Warding, you should glyph CoH. My priority when I play holy is: 1. CoH 2. Flash Heal 3. PoH or HN
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OscarDivine
I personally think that PW:S is too expensive to cast as a Holy priest. With Soul Warding, your PW:S costs 14.4% base mana. Without, it costs 23%. So as a holy priest, you'd have to scrap Guardian Spirit for Soul Warding. If you are casting PW:S without Soul Warding (or the current Rapture in 3.0.8) your mana will be taking a big hit. When you get deep into Disc, you're PW:S gets another 40% stronger with Borrowed Time, adding a helpful chunk of change to glyph of PW:S.
So overall, if you are holy without Soul Warding, you should glyph CoH. My priority when I play holy is: 1. CoH 2. Flash Heal 3. PoH or HN
I agree with you but I also disagree with you. :-)
Glyphing for CoH is definitely best for a holy priest, provided you're Raid Healing. If you're NOT raid healing and you're MT Healing the way that our OP seems to be, he may want to just consider making the move to Disco. It is really more what he's already playing as.
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razzem
Sure, but that wasn't what he asked :D And you still use CoH for 5 mans, and even if you are MT healing you should still be able to fit CoH in.
Still even MT healing as holy, it is much more efficient to cast other spells than PW:S other than when you are trying to save the tanks life. PW:S is not and should not be a staple for Holy priest healing rotation... it's too mana expensive. Hence, it's not useful to glyph it, imo.
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OscarDivine
and DISC priests are &*!@ for raid disc spec is pvp spec for mp5 and thats it if you have good enough gear as holy you dont go oom anyway and then you have better heals as holy for instance as holy spec i heal about 5.1k with a flash heal as disc id heal about 4k its a big difference if you think about it
I think you're about to get a lot of gruff about these statements...
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