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Changes to soulstone in 3.3?
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Post by
Eledhwen
Create Soulstone: The cooldown on this spell and duration of its buff have been lowered from 30 minutes down to 15 minutes. Cannot be used in Arenas.
This seems pretty big. The cooldown and spell is now 15 minutes? Am I reading this right?
Assuming I am, here's my point of view: I like the cooldown being less time but the duration? Seems we'll be going through soul shards like crazy and it'll be more aggravation then it's worth. 15 minute duration is just too short. Believe me, I play a Paladin too and was glad when my buffs went from 15 minutes to 30. 15 minutes is too short. Everytime we turn around we'll have to be putting up a new soulstone and then having to replace the shard.
I say they should leave it alone or just have the cooldown reduced so that if you lose the soulstone you can have a new one in 15 minutes. But having it just go away in that time will be a pain.
Thoughts? Opinions?
Post by
Metalfenrir
I am a little annoyed by this change as well. The drop from 1 hr to 30 minutes in the previous change was very nice, now they seem to be pushing it.
I would love to see something along these lines:
Create Soulstone: The cooldown on this spell has been reduced to 15 minutes. The duration of its buff last 30 minutes. A Warlock can only have one Soul Stone active at any given time. Cannot be used in Arenas.
Lower the cooldown, keep the duration. Helps with wipes and also creates some more flexibility during battles without the small duration.
Post by
asakawa
/sigh
you realise how many people would be mad if they reduced all the other self rez abilities and left soulstone?
if they reduced the CD but left the duration then 1 lock would be able to stone 2 players. this isn't good.
stones are too easy to come by. stop complaining about buffs.
Post by
MegaVolt
if they reduced the CD but left the duration then 1 lock would be able to stone 2 players. this isn't good.
Create Soulstone: The cooldown on this spell has been reduced to 15 minutes. The duration of its buff last 30 minutes. A Warlock can only have one Soul Stone active at any given time. Cannot be used in Arenas.
Problem solved. There are enough spells in the game already that can only affect one target at a time, why not make Soul Stone one of them?
Re-casting it every 15 minutes really is annoying. I'd increase the duration to 1 hour (and make it so that only 1 player can be affected by it, if it's cast on a second one the first will lose the buff, just like a Shamans Earth Shield).
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Post by
Eledhwen
Create Soulstone: The cooldown on this spell has been reduced to 15 minutes. The duration of its buff last 30 minutes. A Warlock can only have one Soul Stone active at any given time. Cannot be used in Arenas.
Problem solved. There are enough spells in the game already that can only affect one target at a time, why not make Soul Stone one of them?
Re-casting it every 15 minutes really is annoying. I'd increase the duration to 1 hour (and make it so that only 1 player can be affected by it, if it's cast on a second one the first will lose the buff, just like a Shamans Earth Shield).
I like that. I wish they'd do it just like you said.
I don't want the duration to go to an hour without a shorter cooldown. If the cooldown alone was being decreased to 15 minutes it would be fine. I'd rather keep things as it is now for the duration but have the CD at 15 minutes. Make it so the soulstone can only affect one target. If it's recast on anyone else it goes away on the other person. Seems logical.
A 15 minute duration WILL be a royal pain. Trust me. Aside from having to replace the shard, which isn't the worst thing that can happen, folks will just FORGET to refresh it! Yes, you can get Necrosis which will tell you that your soulstone is faded but I'm not looking forward to having that voice come on every time I finish a quest. 15 minutes is nothing time-wise when you are questing and/or raiding! I can think of a lot of healers who are going to be mighty angry when they see their stone is gone after 15 minutes and there will be constant stopping and reminding to "restone" them. What a pain that'll be...
My Paladin buffs were 15 minutes before they went to 30 and it was a giant pain having to recast them. When you get into playing it's a real pain to have to remember to keep casting something. It's not like your Soulstone will just show up again in 15 minutes, you have to make a concerted effort to make a new one again. A lot of people are going to be peeved when they die and find that they've lost it.
I hope this gets changed in the PTR.
On the positive side, I don't know if this is a bug or not but when I switch specs I lose my soulstone, which is real problem. I like the idea of being able to get it back sooner.
Post by
asakawa
Create Soulstone: The cooldown on this spell has been reduced to 15 minutes. The duration of its buff last 30 minutes. A Warlock can only have one Soul Stone active at any given time. Cannot be used in Arenas.
Problem solved.
i do like this idea and it would be nice to see the ability go this way but the current change was done to keep it in line with other changes and we WOULD be mad if they hadn't made it.
i think the idea is, like heroism/bloodlust, blizz want us to think of these abilities as something you can use and rely on in a boss fight.
this kind of thing gets pushed because if they're going to expect people to deal with 50 tries onan achievement then people will naturally respond in what might otherwise seem to be extreme ways. they'll wait for the SS cooldown every time so they don't waste attempts on fights where a SS would have prevented the wipe.
try to think of SS as that. it's something you put in place for a boss fight, part of each fight's prep. not a buff to be maintained throughout a run.
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Post by
Metalfenrir
Create Soulstone: The cooldown on this spell has been reduced to 15 minutes. The duration of its buff last 30 minutes. A Warlock can only have one Soul Stone active at any given time. Cannot be used in Arenas.
Problem solved.
i do like this idea and it would be nice to see the ability go this way but the current change was done to keep it in line with other changes and we WOULD be mad if they hadn't made it.
i think the idea is, like heroism/bloodlust, blizz want us to think of these abilities as something you can use and rely on in a boss fight.
Ah, I was not aware that the other rez abilties where getting changes as well, that explains a good deal. I should go back and re-read the patch notes.
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