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Cataclysm, Warlock's Needed PvP Changes
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Infleto
I hope blizz address each spec's PvP troubles.
Aff has low burst making it harder to land kills. he new soul shard system may help if Soul burn + soul fire makes it to live. Aff is doing well though.
Destro needs somthing to stop Immo form being dispelled all the time. It dose not have to be complete Dispell protection. Just a little lower chance of it being dispelled.
Improved Immolate Rank 3
Increases the damage done by your Immolate spell by 30%. If Immolate is dispelled the is a 30% chance a full Immolate will be reapplied and can not be dispelled. (DoT and DD part of Immolate will be recasted)
Demo by seem like it needs a lot of work but it just needs anti-cc for it's meta CD.
Demo needs some to help to kite Melee when out of meta.
As well as something to keep people form kiting him when in he is in Meta. His pet's stun helps but is is better used to get some one off of you when you are set up to do it. Now on the fly. So the Flegard will have to give it to him.
And Lastly, SB is the spell Demo lock need to use when out of Meta but the cast times on SB are too long! The spell needs way to make it cast faster
Metamorphosis
Instant - 3 minute cooldown
You transform into a Demon for 30 sec. This form increases your armor by 600%, damage by 20%, and reduces the duration of all movement impairing effects and all effects which cause loss of control by 50%. You gain some unique demon abilities in addition to your normal abilities. .
Demoic Pain Rank 1
8% of base mana Melee Range
Instant cast 12 sec cooldown
A attack of pain doing the Felguard's doing weapon damage. This attack interrupts spellcasting and dazes the target for 5 sec.
Demonic Pact Rank 5
Your pet's criticals apply the Demonic Pact effect to your party or raid members. Demonic Pact increases spell power by 10% of your Spell Damage for 12 sec. And, reduces the casting time of your next 2 Shadow Bolts by 1sec. Does not work on Enslaved demons and does not effect Shadow Bolt when in Metamorphosis.
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Infleto
For warlocks Not every one.
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Valer
I think blizzard mentioned a kind of anti magic shell but for melee. That would be a great buff for warlocks which they badly need.
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Valer
Well I guess its similar, not an immunity for certain time though.
We really need it just as a spell, so we can still have silence from felhunter and dispel. Or give voidwalker some vs caster utility.
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Infleto
dont we already have that? namely vw Sac? last time i checked it soaked 9k dmg and let you cast uninterupted. also last 30 secs on a 1 min cd.
only draw backs are those damn mages that have the annoying habit of robbing your shield ><
if you think you can pull it off.. i pop sac to absorb one of his bolts then instantly drop it so he cant take it.
Deep Demo can't use it void bubble that well. VW shield is mostly used when you are getting burst ed on when we are stunned / feared / silenced. Whe have to pop Fel Dom to get out the VW but can't do this when we are CCed.
Affliction has no burst? I beg to differ. For a DoT build with such outlast and drain potential, it has a tonne of damage output and pressure. If you can land a UA you're doing even better since nobody is willing to try and remove your damage
Yes, yes, yes DoTs can put out the pain. All I am saying is it is some times hard to take out that one person out who is at 30% HP and your last dot has just ticked off. Soul burn > soul fire may help by putting them under 25% letting DS do it's magic.
Making Immo undispellable would make locks a bit too strong. Yes a undispellable Immo would be OP. That is why it is a chance to become undispellable.
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Infleto
Maybe give the demo tree a talent that increases the summoned demons resilience with X% of your own resilience.
NO, not as a point. All Pets need to scal with there owner's resil.
In regards to the Anti-Melee shield idea, there would need to be a flat % damage reduction put on it, or it would be imba and people would QQ more than they already do about warlocks.
VW shield is our shield. And it works grate. It is your anti "!@#$ I am Stunded" CD
Yes we do have trouble with melee, Blizz knows this. That is why they make the Glyph of Shadow Flame. All Specs are better with a 8sec 70% slow. Blizz messed up when they made it a glyph and not apart of the spell to begain with.
Making Glyph of Shadow flame apart of shadow flame is a fix to Aff's and Destro's small melee trouble. Giving us a nother sheild is over kill for aff and destro.
Demo needs more help with every thing. the above spell for the Felgard is a Fix for that.
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Infleto
Now I understand what you where getting at. More resilience for Demo would make it live longer. But the stat is not the end all for Demo locks or their pets.
A flat out HP scaling buff on the felgard would help more do to the senergy pet HP has with talents in the demo tree. (aka. Demoic knowledge, Demoic vitaltiy)
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skribs
I think the suggested Immolate is a bit too powerful, but something to make it a question of whether or not to dispel (but not as powerful as UA) would be nice. So more like:
Improved Immolate - Rank 3 - Damage of your Immolate is increased by 30%, and when your Immolate is dispelled your spell power is increased by 3% per tick remaining.
This would increase your power if Immolate is dispelled, but at the same time require another immolate cast. Another thing to consider is the new Soul Shard system - the "empowered" Immolate could be undispellable (since it would be on a CD, that would be powerful for burst but not OP if the target survives that immolate).
Affliction to me seems fine - it's all based on back-loaded burst and survivability. Although I think 25% is a little low for the execute, considering the execute is another DoT as well. Problem is that increasing the number to 30% or 35% would shift the balance in PvE, and Blizzard won't include "when the target is less than 25% on an NPC or 35% on a player." Considering what they're doing with Soul Shards, if one of the effects of the shard-buff-ability was "Reduces the duration and the amount between ticks of your Drain Soul by 30%" this would help.
Demo does need help, and I agree that changing Shadowflame to more of a debuff ability (since I've never seen it suggested in a DPS rotation and seems to just be mobile AoE damage) without the glyph would help. The pets seem to be fine, the problem is largely that Demo is so wrapped up in Meta and procs instead of controlled burst (e.g. destro) or consistent effects (destro/affl) that it's basically a suicide spec. Again, I see the new shard system helping here - an improved Soul Fire or similar ability which may give extra burst to Demo, or another CD to follow-up meta with to finish off the opponent.
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Papercolor
I think anyone who thinks warlocks need a buff needs to practice.
Fear, DC, demonic portal, spell lock, howl of terror / shadow furry, fel domination + VW shield / succy seduce, CoE, CoT, VW consume shadows which owns rogues, health stone + battlemaster trinket anyone can get = 2 hp stones, shadow ward, glyphed shadowflame...........
I mean seriously.
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