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Post by
Hakarie
Ok i know this will sound very noobish, but what exactly does blockcap does? I recently switched to prot and with the following equipment im at 60% (got 3 parts of the tier and some naxx eqs).
Help me be a better tank please.
Armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Quel%27Thalas&n=Hakarie
Note that the stats are wrong on the armory, im currently at
21.18 Dodge
16.35 Parry
13.87 Block
Hit capped
15 Crit
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338937
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Post by
Hakarie
Wouldnt that make me Jesus on plate?
Anyway, to get that last 10%, should i stack more avoid?
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65116
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Post by
Quest
The Block Cap is the point at which you will either dodge, parry, be missed by, or block every single attack that comes at you. 102.4% overall avoidance (dodge+parry+block+miss) is the block cap.
Rough math before diminishing returns - you are not Black Capped. You're ~10% away.
Avoidance is not block.
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96875
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Post by
Hakarie
So my dodge is low? What should i stack up then?
Post by
Quest
Dodge....?
Post by
Hakarie
Dodge....?
Until my block,parry and dodge sums how much?
Post by
zoomie
The Block Cap is the point at which you will either dodge, parry, be missed by, or block every single attack that comes at you. 102.4% overall avoidance (dodge+parry+block+miss) is the block cap.
Rough math before diminishing returns - you are not Black Capped. You're ~10% away.
Avoidance is not block.
Who didn't see that coming...
Another thing to keep in mind is raid buffs. You get quite a bit of agility from horn of winter, kings, and gift of the wild.
http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintankadin/viewtopic.php?t=19063
here you can find a spreadsheet that calculates diminishing returns and effective health. But on the side is a few boxes you can click to get those raid buffs. Just enter in all your unbuffed stats. Unbuffed means completely unbuffed, no aura. Then click all the buffs on the side and you can see what your avoidance and mitigation would be at if you had all those buffs.
I will use myself as an example
I have 552 defense (748 rating), 23.39% dodge (338 rating), 20.80% parry (360 rating), and 16.75% block (93 rating). I also have the base 112 agility that humans have. The macro shows me at 100.48% self buffed. The spreadsheet shows me at 100.49%. Simply getting the horn of winter buff puts me at 102.66% from the dodge gained by agility. Mark of the wild and kings put me at 103.78%. So the moral of this wall of text is never forget about raid buffs unless you know for sure that you will likely never get that certain buff. In my case I can rely on having them. In my case, with full raid buffs, about 2% block gets pushed off the table so I could drop 2% block and get parry or dodge instead.
Post by
svirve
I also have the base 112 agility that humans have.
Bah that sucks :'( my human only has 90 base agility.
Though she has 112 base intellect instead....
Post by
zoomie
Well it also includes the 22 agility from the leg armor kit. Because it is the only leg armor a tank should be using, i look at it as base agility since it is always there unless my gear breaks.
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338937
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Post by
Quest
You cant take it as base because it suffers from DR while actual base does not AFAIK.
Post by
Quest
Dodge....?
Until my block,parry and dodge sums how much?
102.4
Post by
Quest
The Block Cap is the point at which you will either dodge, parry, be missed by, or block every single attack that comes at you. 102.4% overall avoidance (dodge+parry+block+miss) is the block cap.
Rough math before diminishing returns - you are not Black Capped. You're ~10% away.
Avoidance is not block.
O really? Can you please explain to me why its not avoidance, because I'm
retarded
. It is, and always has been, referred to as 102.4% AVOIDANCE, not 102.4% MITIGATION.
102.4% is referred to as
block-cap
since Wrath came out. 102.4% was
never
referred to as avoidance. By the folks that know the terminology and use it correctly (Silly English I know right) it
was
referred to as uncrushable or unhittable (unhittable still works) Maybe by a few misinformed people that liked the sound of 'avoidance' better i suppose.
There is a large difference between taking 20,000 damage (2000blocked) and avoiding it altogether. Block is mitigation.
Sorry that you've been mislead, but continuing to refer to it wrong just because you're stubborn doesn't magically have it make since. Thats the same as people talking about 'defence cap'. There is no such thing attainable in this game. If we did have 102.4% avoidance, how do you suppose we would ever get hit by melee.
hmmmmm?
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338937
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Post by
Proky
avoidance is avoiding damage :) so when you block, you dont avoid damage you are only lowering it, so armor and block is mitigation and 5%miss,dodge,parry is avoidance
that guys above me is saying truth :)
Post by
Quest
102.4% is referred to as
block-cap
since Wrath came out. 102.4% was
never
referred to as avoidance. By the folks that know the terminology and use it correctly (Silly English I know right) it
was
referred to as uncrushable or unhittable (unhittable still works) Maybe by a few misinformed people that liked the sound of 'avoidance' better i suppose.
There is a large difference between taking 20,000 damage (2000blocked) and avoiding it altogether. Block is mitigation.
Sorry that you've been mislead, but continuing to refer to it wrong just because you're stubborn doesn't magically have it make since. Thats the same as people talking about 'defence cap'. There is no such thing attainable in this game. If we did have 102.4% avoidance, how do you suppose we would ever get hit by melee.
hmmmmm?
102.4% overall
avoidance
is required to attain
the blockcap
. If you just say 102.4%, there are a lot of people out there that are not going to have any clue what you're saying, so you label it, and it is, and always has been, labeled as
avoidance
.
Youre pretty stupid. By all means, continue looking stupid. Thats all I can say.
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147614
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