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Best Tank? Paladin vs. Warrior
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Post by
Dralas
Now I know that there's probaly alot of different threads with this same topic, just can't find anyone being specific enough. What tank out of warrior and paladin would you find the best? What I mean is just all around, threat, avoidance, mitigation. I have a warrior tank, but i've been looking at the changes to paladin tanks and now am considering making one. Paladins it seems can receive bigger heals passively from spec. Also with avenger's shield being specd for silencing that puts them up more now as well. Along with being able to block basically every attack if its not dodged or parried so reduces overall damage. I'm just not really that sure what's a more effective tank overall. I've played a warrior tank for a while but I really am starting to think paladin tanks might be overall better. What's your guys opinions?
Post by
TheStud
Warriors for Main tanks and boss tanks, Paladins for Off-Tanks and AoE Fights.
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Post by
Dralas
Thanks for the input, and @ TheStud, paladins were made in this expansion to be viable for both Off-tanking and Main-Tanking, even back in BC I was seeing high end paladins as main tanks for guilds instead of warriors. Not trying to counter every single post, just want some input from paladin tanks. I've been a warrior tank for a while so I know the whole mechanics well, just never bothered leveling up a paladin so I was mainly wondering who effective they are overall. Specifically how easy to heal, there tps, how well they can deal with damage, etc..
Post by
anywherenotes
Don't reroll from warrior to paladin, they are essentially same thing. Both wear shields, both use single-handed weapons. DK's still get a lot of crap, so if anything I'd roll a druid. Warriors are powerful tanks, I wouldn't say more than paladins, but wouldn't say less either. I don't have a high-level druid, and know little of their tanking, and I do see a lot of QQ about druid tanking, but it's likely to get fixed by the time you will level 1-80.
I find it very hard to believe that warriors will be worse than druid/paladin, as historically they've been MT. A lot of progressive guilds still use their original tanks from vanila, and they are likely still a warrior, so they wouldn't get handicapped. DK's should realistically be same level as the best tank, otherwise in next expansion 'Hero' class wouldn't be a marketable selling point. If they come out with a healer, people will just say 'look the DK can't tank, so obviously this new hero can't heal as well as priest/paladin/druid/shaman'. So I'm still sticking to my DK tank, but just from the load of crap you get, I wouldn't recommend making one.
Post by
omglaserzpewpew
Warriors for Main tanks and boss tanks, Paladins for Off-Tanks and AoE Fights.
who still thinks like that?
My guild.
Post by
gooseymac
Don't reroll from warrior to paladin, they are essentially same thing. Both wear shields, both use single-handed weapons. DK's still get a lot of crap, so if anything I'd roll a druid. Warriors are powerful tanks, I wouldn't say more than paladins, but wouldn't say less either. I don't have a high-level druid, and know little of their tanking, and I do see a lot of QQ about druid tanking, but it's likely to get fixed by the time you will level 1-80.
I find it very hard to believe that warriors will be worse than druid/paladin, as historically they've been MT. A lot of progressive guilds still use their original tanks from vanila, and they are likely still a warrior, so they wouldn't get handicapped. DK's should realistically be same level as the best tank, otherwise in next expansion 'Hero' class wouldn't be a marketable selling point. If they come out with a healer, people will just say 'look the DK can't tank, so obviously this new hero can't heal as well as priest/paladin/druid/shaman'. So I'm still sticking to my DK tank, but just from the load of crap you get, I wouldn't recommend making one.
You only get crap as a DK if your undergeared or not throwing out a good rotation/spec which maintains agro. Im a DK tank, with 29k unbuffed hp and im consistently stealing aggro from warrior's/pallys/druids without a using a taunt. At that point, people stop giving you crap.
As long as youve got a good rotation going your fine. Personally I love DK tanking just because your a tank which is awsome, but your still rolling out the 6k crits every 20 seconds or so as im a number $%^&* lol. The only downside i find in DK's is you dont get some massive kick ass looking sheild to hide behind :P
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Jakesterwars
I talk a lot with Paladin tanks about how their tanking is different from Warriors on boss fights or not. They have an advantage for aggro for sure because of Righteous Fury over what Warriors have to pretty much "faceroll" to steal aggro from a good Paladin tank. I've also talked to some DK tanks about how they would do their rotations with their CD's to reduce damage to them. Druid tanks, well, we'll just have to wait until later.
Pretty much all tanks are the same depending on skill level, not gear.
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Post by
Aldafool3345
do research on your class plz. From your thread, its pretty much telling me you don't know a lot about warriors tanks and just wanting for paladin tanking for some odd reason...
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Post by
Dralas
do research on your class plz. From your thread, its pretty much telling me you don't know a lot about warriors tanks and just wanting for paladin tanking for some odd reason...
Your right and wrong at the same time, very rare. Your right that I want a paladin tank for an odd reason, I like the class all around, healer, dps'er, tank, great pvpers, so yeah, maybe odd I like that vs. a tank, dps, and a ish pvper if i don't have a healer on me. I just want to know if there tanking talents are good in the long run and if its worth making one.
Your wrong on me not knowing my class well. I've been a warrior tank for 2 years and have essentially mastered the class (as a tank). I'm the MT usually for the raids i'm in. However, I do have to thank you, from the replies and specifically yours, it made me realize this ever so famous quote among players with blizzard:
"Why fix it if its not broken?"
Perhaps maybe not with blizzard, but we all think that every new patch at one point or another =P
Post by
Aldafool3345
do research on your class plz. From your thread, its pretty much telling me you don't know a lot about warriors tanks and just wanting for paladin tanking for some odd reason...
Your right and wrong at the same time, very rare. Your right that I want a paladin tank for an odd reason, I like the class all around, healer, dps'er, tank, great pvpers, so yeah, maybe odd I like that vs. a tank, dps, and a ish pvper if i don't have a healer on me. I just want to know if there tanking talents are good in the long run and if its worth making one.
Your wrong on me not knowing my class well. I've been a warrior tank for 2 years and have essentially mastered the class (as a tank). I'm the MT usually for the raids i'm in. However, I do have to thank you, from the replies and specifically yours, it made me realize this ever so famous quote among players with blizzard:
"Why fix it if its not broken?"
Perhaps maybe not with blizzard, but we all think that every new patch at one point or another =P
Alright then, you got a point and I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. If thats so, then I suggest playing Paladin and have fun with it. Good luck with w/e decision you make then.
Post by
Dralas
do research on your class plz. From your thread, its pretty much telling me you don't know a lot about warriors tanks and just wanting for paladin tanking for some odd reason...
Your right and wrong at the same time, very rare. Your right that I want a paladin tank for an odd reason, I like the class all around, healer, dps'er, tank, great pvpers, so yeah, maybe odd I like that vs. a tank, dps, and a ish pvper if i don't have a healer on me. I just want to know if there tanking talents are good in the long run and if its worth making one.
Your wrong on me not knowing my class well. I've been a warrior tank for 2 years and have essentially mastered the class (as a tank). I'm the MT usually for the raids i'm in. However, I do have to thank you, from the replies and specifically yours, it made me realize this ever so famous quote among players with blizzard:
"Why fix it if its not broken?"
Perhaps maybe not with blizzard, but we all think that every new patch at one point or another =P
Alright then, you got a point and I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. If thats so, then I suggest playing Paladin and have fun with it. Good luck with w/e decision you make then.
Didn't offend me ^^ , forums are meant for some input, so you put your input in which convinced me to stick warrior and continue to modify him.
Post by
Aldafool3345
do research on your class plz. From your thread, its pretty much telling me you don't know a lot about warriors tanks and just wanting for paladin tanking for some odd reason...
Your right and wrong at the same time, very rare. Your right that I want a paladin tank for an odd reason, I like the class all around, healer, dps'er, tank, great pvpers, so yeah, maybe odd I like that vs. a tank, dps, and a ish pvper if i don't have a healer on me. I just want to know if there tanking talents are good in the long run and if its worth making one.
Your wrong on me not knowing my class well. I've been a warrior tank for 2 years and have essentially mastered the class (as a tank). I'm the MT usually for the raids i'm in. However, I do have to thank you, from the replies and specifically yours, it made me realize this ever so famous quote among players with blizzard:
"Why fix it if its not broken?"
Perhaps maybe not with blizzard, but we all think that every new patch at one point or another =P
Alright then, you got a point and I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. If thats so, then I suggest playing Paladin and have fun with it. Good luck with w/e decision you make then.
Didn't offend me ^^ , forums are meant for some input, so you put your input in which convinced me to stick warrior and continue to modify him.
Thats cool to hear, but I suggest if you are getting tired of playing your warrior, make the paladin and keep 2 tanks =)
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