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Arcane/Frost PVP = uber
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Post by
Flames
Hello all,
This is my first post on this forum, and I'd like to share with you guys my PVP build wich is working very well up to now.
First, I'm a crit mage. I've made my build and matched my gear to get the most out of crit, spelldmg and stam; in this order.
You can take a look at my build
< here >
Explanation of the build:
The main aspect of this build is the insane crit damage output it gives. Note the +50% crit damage in the bottom of Arcane tree and +100% crit damage in the top of the Frost tree.
Yes you got it, +150% crit damage on frost spells
;)
What's the result of this? Normal Frostbolt crits for 4300 - 4800. Arcane Power + Trinket (150dmg) crits for 5300 to 6000 and Arcane Power + Trinket + Berseker (BG buff) crits for over 7000. (I'm always running for Berseker buff in BGs!!)
Ice Lance crits for 2000-2300 (on frozen target), wich is delicious to combo with Frosbolt on a Frozen Target. This is over 7000 damage without AP in 2.5 seconds (fbolt then instant icelance, both crit simultaneously most of the time).
I've scored 30 kills / 0 death 20mins AB... Over 40 kills AV every matches.
I have some screen shots if people are doubting :P
Of course im not running for NPCs and Flag.. I'm just melting alliances faces.
Some useful goodies:
+30% crit chance from Clearcasting (this $hit procs soooo often!)
Presence of mind (my AP+PoM+Trinket+Fbolt is as good as a pom-pyro)
Improved CounterSpell
Iceblock
Berseking every 3mins (Troll's racial)
+3% crit dmg meta gem
Boar's Speed enchant on boots!
All those makes PVP life alot easier (and funnier!)
Statistics:
930 Spelldmg, 30% crit chance, 8500HP, 10 000Mana, 222 resil. Those are my stats (self buffed)
I pump around 910-930 DPS in raids and stuff.. And I still miss some important peices of gear I would like to finish my Crit Build.
The bad:
Raiding!! Ufff.... raiding as a crit mage.... It's somewhat cool since I always top the damage meters. But I draw aggro very often. Having 2-3 crits for over 4500dmg in a row steals aggro from any tank in almost any situations. pop Iceblock!
I repeat, this is a PVP build!
The tricky tricks!!
As a Troll Mage, I'd like to use 2 things every 3 mins: My Berseking, and my dmg trinket.
They key? Marco it baby! Instead of having a normal "frosbolt" shortcut spell on my quickbar, I've got this macro:
/cast Berserking(Racial)
/use Xi'ri's Gift
/cast Frostbolt(Rank 13)
Well using this, EVERY 3 mins, im having a berseking buff (spell haste) + 150 dmg trinket. Wich result in "every 3 min" +xxx DPS. At the end of a 20mins BG, how many times my Trinket and Berseking popped? I've probably had +6-7000 dmg just from that macro...
And.. as every mages who played a pom-pyro build, I have my "one-key-blast" macro.
Wich is a castsequence for AP, Trinket, PoM, Fbolt, Fireblast, Cone of Cold and Arcane Explosion all in one key!
Conclusion
I'm actually recording my BG alliance carnage to show people what an Arcane / Frost mage can do in PVP. I'll be editing the video and posting it on youtube very soon ;)
Just willing to have your opinions.. Any of you ever tried this build?
Any improvements you think I could make to this?
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Post by
Flames
Hey,
Lets get trough your post.
If you skill Spellpower & Icq Shards, you have
225%
Critdamage, not 250%.
SpellPower (+50% crit dmg) and Ice Shards (+100%crit dmg) dont give +225% nor 250%. It gives +150% crit damage on frost spells.
The damage you post is against targets with no resilience. You wil not crit that often and high against targets with 300-400+ resilience. And for that, you have no defense against those targets.
You'd be the one going "OMG" when watching my videos. 1 of 3 spells are crits.
Some are harder to crits than other, but I always score 1 crit or 2 when spamming spells agains an oponnent.
When I'll have my video done, you'll understand, don't worry.
And during the cooldown of your trinket, berserking and AM, all your enemies eat you in seconds.
I never have more than 2-4 death in regular non-turtle EoS and AB matches.
Tons of screenshot as proofs.
If you are on top with that built in you raiddamage, your raid sucks. I dunno what your raiding gear is and how much hit you have on that gear, but you need more hit and you have to skill Elemental Precicion (for raiding)
And with no hit around the hitcap (The hitcap is 16% +hit, you have with your pvp-gear 3%) bosses and mobs with level 73 will resist very very often...
If you want to crit often, skill depp frost.
With Winter`s Chill you get an additional 10% crit on you target and with Empowered frostbolt addional 5% crit on frostbolt.
I agree with your +hit and resist comment on bosses for raiding and etc..
but I repeat, this is a PVP spec. I will never wear +hit over +crit.
Winter's Chill is completly useless in PVP, since you are always multi targetting and you cant really get the most out of it...
But if you like high and often crits, a deep fire specc is realy nice. with your gear you get around 36-37% crit on fire spells.
Have you thought of a specc when the patch is up?
Deadbone
I had that build before. A little bit more crits, but less DPS cause of the "3 second cast fireball".
My fireball was criting for less amount than my frostbolts too..
And in my personnal experience, being Fire in BG is tricky cause once you'vre spammed all your instant shits, if the target is not dead or there's multi targets.... fireballs are long to cast and do less DPS overall my Frostbolts..
And plus, the frostbolt slows the target, wich is a great addition in PVP..
Well.. you'd have to see my video to understand.
But thanks, I appreciate your opinion and comment.
Post by
Flames
Oh and for the question on my build when next patch is out , I'll just get Icy Veins and put it on my "frosbolt macro" so it pop every 3 mins :P
Cant wait to get it!
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Flames
For sure!! I will! Thanks!
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Post by
Flames
Hello wowatu,
Thanks for your build suggestion.
But could you explain your point in putting points in "Wand Specialisation" and "Arcane Fortitude" for a PVP build?
I don't know for you, but I never use my wand in PVP. Really I can't remember when I would have used my wand in a PVP fight...
And for the armor thing, my intellect being 550, this skills adds around 275 Armor. Does really 275 armor worth removing points in Artic Earch and Piercing Ice and Arcane Impact?
For my part, Artic Reach is a must.. Being at max range to cast Frosbolt means how long it will take for the enemy to reach me.. 6 yeards probably means time for 1 more frostbolt to cast. And for Arcane Impact... I use Arcane Explosion many many times in BGs.. it probably depends on your playing style..
And for Frostbite, lol I get your point. Yeah it is a real pain to not have frostbite in my build. But well, I wanted more the damage and the frostbolt distance than "a chance" to freeze a target.
But I might have to re-think about that. Cause actually that "chance to freeze" may result in more crits. So this is a very good point, I may change my build to switch some points from Percing Ice to Frostbite....
Oh and.. for Cold Snap. I had it in my last build but wasnt really using it but for 2 times in a row IceBlock.
Now that "Hypotermia" is here, I dont really think Cold Snap is really useful... Well.. probably it is, for more suvivability in 1800+ Arenas, but im not there yet. So I'll save this point for something else. Once my teams get to 1800, I may have to get Cold Snap, as you said. ;)
Thanks Wowatu!
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Flames
They give +150%
bonus
damage on crits. The bonus damage is 50% of the regular damage. This means that your frost spells will do
225%
(read, 125% more) of their normal hit damage.
Ah okay I get it. Sorry for being slow, didnt think of those maths with the regular +50%, but yeah, you are both totally right.
But in the end, I think we agree this is still a real huge amount of +crit damage :P
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Flames
just a note. Dont pust /stopspellcasting!! This is not mage friendly. When you multimash the macro to cast back to back. that macro will trigger and stop your bolt from casting.
when you are in a panic and your casting a bolt statisticly your going to be hitting that button more then once to get a get a 2nd bolt out after your 1st.
stopcasting will interupt your sht.
Well my macro doesn't react like that.
I can keep pushing the button forever and the frostbolt will still cast one after one without being interrupted........
I'll post the exact macro very soon. It works very well.
Post by
Flames
As you said /stopspellcasting is not working good.
I just pulled it out from my mind when I first wrote the post hehe.
So here's the one I use:
/cast Berserking(Racial)
/use Xi'ri's Gift
/cast Frostbolt(Rank 13)
Those 3 can be used at the same time. I push the button once and they all cast. When the 2 first are on cooldown, it displays "you cannot use this item" but still /cast the Frostbolt.
Very good way to use your racial/trinket every 3 mins ;)
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DrakeLord
Hey mate, u didnt link to any keylogger? Can someone confirm that the link is good?
Everytime i click it my browser freezes, but the addres seems to be to armory?
The one in his original post? It links to his armory profile.
Just clicked it right now, though, and it simply pops up a "The Armory" graphic, since the Armory's under maintenance right now.
EDIT:
lol
Just checked it again and it's off maintenance. =P
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