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A Discussion on the Draenei
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Post by
Adamsm
So, after an interesting few ideas in another thread, decided to create this. After all, the Draenei are one of the few truly "Good" races that exist in the Warcraft universe, I guess that comes from almost having your soul corrupted by Sargeras and the Legion. Anyways, here's a quick run down of the Draenei history.
25 thousand years ago, the Eredar race reached it's height, the large hooved and horned beings reaching the pinacle of magic and technology, their world a paradise. Unfortenately, as with many other things, this peace did not last, as the "Shining One", seeing the Eredar and reconizing their true potential offered them a chance to go out into the universe and spread His gospel to all other races. The three leaders of the Eredar, Archimonde Kil'jaeden and Velen, were offered their heart desires, and two of the three fell to Him. The only one who did not, Velen, who would later become the Prophet, traveled to an ancient Temple and learned by mediatating at one of the Ata'Mal stones that "Shining One" was really the Destroyer Sargeras, who intended to corrupt the Eredar and turn them into Man'ari, who would use them to destroy all life. Velen, with the assistence of a group of powerful beings known as the Naaru, escaped their world aboard the Naaru spacecraft, after almost being trapped and killed by the Man'ari Eredar. Calling themselves Draenei, which means "Exiles" they would travel the cosmos, fleeing from the Legion for thousand of years. The Legion never truly gave up, and whenever the Exiles thought they were safe, and had made allies on the planet, the demons would arrive to destroy them. Finally, they found a world where they thought they would be safe.......
According to Rise of the Horde, the Draenei appeared on Draenor 200 orc generations ago, there is no actual age given for a generation so we have no idea how long that actually is. The orc's saw something strike in Nagrand, and when they worked up the courage to check, they found the Oshu'gan crystal mountain. We've since learned that Oshu'gan was an escape pod from a Naaru ship, it has never been revealed if they were attacked by the Legion or if they had mechanical failure.
So, there we go, for an incredibly long amount of time, the Draenei are seen by the "primative" orc's as the more powerful race, well the Draenei enjoyed the Orc's seeing much good in them. They had a small amount of trading between the two civilizations but for the most part it was "you don't bother me, I won't bother you".
Fast forward to when Durotar and Doomhammer were 12, they had become friends against all normal Orc clan ideas. They grew up together and were good friends. During one of their jaunts into Terrokar forest, they made a mistake and wandered into ogre territory, said Ogre being happy to see them.... so he could smash them. The kids were saved by a Draenei hunting party, and the two young orc's were shown a Draenei city, Telmor.
Forward again a few years, and this time something evil this way comes; a Man'ari Eredar found the Exiles on their new home world and scampered off to tell Kil'jaeden who watched the world for a while before finally deciding to focus on the orc's and make them into his weapon of annihilation.
So, during one of Ner'zhul's trips to Oshu'gan to commune with the ancestors, he is visted by his mate who tells him that Draenei are the enemy and they will destroy the orc. He continues to recieve this message for quite a while and finds out all the shaman are getting it. The orc's, believeing what the ancestor's tell them, they start to prepare for war. They combine the clans into the Horde, gain the alliengence of the Ogres, and start a few skirmishes against the Draenei, partly winning partly losing as the Draenei do not want to use their magic on those they consider allies, but at the same time won't let the orc's kill them. After that, the orc's are given a new magic, Warlock magic, and they slowly but surly lose their connection to their shaman roots.
So, we are now between 9-8 years before the first war, and the battles between the Draenei and the Horde incease in ferocity. At this point, Kil'jaeden, being the royal arse he is, taunts poor Ner'zhul with what he has done and makes Gul'dan the new "leader" of the Horde.
His first move was the worst he could have made; Gul'dan preformed the ritual of blood and bound the Orcish race to the Legion (for all time or so they thought), after this point it became all out genocide. The final number's are supposedly 80% of the Draenei race were wiped out, with the remaining survivors fleeing into Zangarmarsh, Blades Edge and Fields of Farahlon(also known as Netherstorm now).
So, thats the end of the Draenor war and the start of the first war on Azeroth. We know what happened there, but what happened on Draenor was that some of the Draenei, giving in to despair and sadness, were affected by the demon taint on the world and began to devolve into what we call the Broken. Some were able to fight against it, Nobundo and Akama being the most famous, but others sucided, ran head long into death and the like.
So flash forward to the 2nd war, the Portal reopened and at that point, some of the Broken Draenei escaped into Azeroth, and we see them there still. During Beyond the Dark Portal, the Alliance expedition travels to Auchidon and meets up with a unbroken Draenei guarding the ancient gravesite. He helps drive out the Shadow Council and Ner'zhul's forces.
Following the destuction of Draenor, the Draenei race goes deep into hiding, trying there best to survive. So third war rolls around, the madness invades Azeroth and the World Tree is destroyed. After this, The Frozen Throne begans, and then the fun starts. During their visit to Outlands, Kael'thas, Vashj and Illdian meet Akama and the Ashtongue Clan, an entire group of Broken, who help the three Azerothian's defeat the pit lord that had taken over Outlands in the absentence of the Legion and The Orc's.
The next time we hear about the Draenei is during the Blood Elf invasion when they took over Tempest keep, at that point about 70% of the Draenei who survived the Draenor War/Broken corrpution were in the Keep hiding there after the invasion of the Illdari forces, and when the Blood Elves took over the keep, the Exiles headed for the Exodar, which was meant to be living quarters, but could be used as an escape pod, and tried to run. The Elves though, messed with the planeshifter engine, damaging it so the ship only got as far as Azeroth, where it crashed landed in north western Kalimdor.
Post by
Skreeran
Sorry, tl;dr (despite how much I hate that phrase). I already know the history of the Draenei, can you summerize the discussion?
Post by
Adamsm
Sorry, I love the history:
Anyways, discussion part: Are the Draenei too much? Too perfect, too humble, too... whatever? If you think about it, their the master's of Arcane(which called the Legion), the grand casters of Light(chosen by the Naaru), the ones who have forgiven their enemies for slaughtering them.
I honestly think it might be a good idea for both Horde and Alliance to have a Draenei advisor at their side, to assist them with decisions about the War and the like, after all, they've seen enough war for the last 25k years to make even the Troll's shy away.
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Post by
Skreeran
Nope. :)
The Draenei's perfect goodness is counterbalanced that their race produced some of the most evil creatures in the galaxy, and the fact that they were nearly exterminated. Now, if they were some massive condescending alien race that just came in and told us what to do, that'd be too much.
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Post by
Adamsm
While other races are masters of something the Draenei seem to be masters of all.Of course, when your race is at least 40 thousand years old (going on the idea Velen is 40k) that is kinda of expected. After all, the elves are master archers, almost from the beginning, with the Sentinels and Hunter's being some of their most used warriors.
Reminds me of another quote, not from Warcraft:
"The elves are long lived, so long lived, that merely living is an artwork for them. What we see as perfection, they see as just another step in the next stage of their work."
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Adamsm
What I find interesting is that some Draenei are not as "holy" as the rest of them. Quests for the Cenarian Expedition in Blade's Edge Mountains have you go after the
Wyrmcult
(followers of the Black Dragonflight). One you must kill is
Overseer Nuaar
who is obviously a Draenei. There are also other Draenei (among other races) that are part of the Wyrmcult. What I see from this is that some Draenei still want power and are going down the same path as their Eredar brothers.
And that is true, after all, the final quest on Bloodmyst, has you going after a Draenei who has transformed into a Man'ari, so yes, not all Draenei are good. Look at Akama and his tribe, they willingly joined with Illidan to stop the Pit Lords... of course he ends up helping us kill Illidan so.... crap.
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Adamsm
No, I think she was corrupted after the crash... but I could be wrong.
The Lost Ones are the evil sect of the Broken, and Akama and his Ashtongues were the middle ground between the Broken like Nobundo, and those of the Lost Ones. But even he had a reason for it, as he was trying to free his people from the Pit Lords. Most of the Broken sub-race are considered to be part of the Draenei again, espically after Nobundo and his revelations.
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Post by
Adamsm
Their technology is ZOMG when compared to the poor steam technology from gnomeregan. Well to be fair, most of their Tech now is Naaru, as they weren't able to take much from Argus with them when they ran like hell from the Legion's forces, but I still see what you mean heh.
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Post by
Adamsm
Here she is:
Sironas
Take what you will from her page.
Then it sounds like she was a Man'ari ahead of time, but seems to be able to shift into a Draenei form.... /shudder, man I hope they don't start doing that with other Man'ari.
Post by
taurenmoo812
I agree. The draenei as a whole just seemed too much in terms of craming everything in. Light worshiping, arcane controlling, space hoping, and later, shaman worshiping, and still shadow controlling and undead summoning.
Races tend to often have limitations to there race to give them some structure, like the tauren only followed the natural ways of things through shamanism and druidism, well having tribal aspects of warrior and hunters. Night elves were the same but with a darker quaility to them with rogues and such.
Still saying that, now we're getting tauren paladins and night elf mages, so its all a big lore blender switched on high speed.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, since the Retcon for the Hooved ones, they've been up in the air. They were part of the orginal pair that was meant to corrupt Sargeras, then He ends up corrupting them instead, just leaving the Dreadlords as the orginal evil group.
But undead summoning... oh your talking about the Auchindoun warders, which is meant to be just a specific few members, not the race on a whole. Be no different then the Tauren/Orc spirit walkers really.
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