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slasher0161
Shrug it's just how things work.
Why learn your class when you can pug 25 man raids and get carried and get loot.
Applies to every class not just paladins.
Its sad because its true, saw a warlock in my guild in greens and blues get all the naxx25 (in arachnid quarter) achievements in a pug group while on all my toons i have tried to gear up to do my part and when i did not feel my numbers were high enough and i was "being carried" (NR blues and 70 epics in naxx25) i refused to roll on loot as it was not fair to the others... Guess some people are just ignorant and don't have moral values, then again what more can you expect from some 10-12 year olds?
*Edits* for dodgy grammar
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Don't know what people are complaining about gear issues for - I'm still waiting for a Prot PVP set... (though thinking about it now, stacking that much def and resilience rating is probably OP)
I used to use Wisdom to tank, because I didn't have any threat issues, and having the extra mana to Consecrate is better than letting your dots trail off from Vengeance. I do that now as well occasionally in normal instances, because I don't take enough damage for the healer to make enough of a difference (even with 2/2 Spiritual Attunement).
I fail to see how any group would allow a character quest greens/blues into their Naxx10+ raid group, but have sympathy for those in Heroics.
It's very easy for a casual player to hit 80 without knowing all that much. I didn't switch over from SoC to SoM until 80 (but that's more because I played Prot the whole way up). I started playing near the back end of TBC, so I didn't get to spend days running L70 heroics and raids - instead, I was levelling up through Hellfire Peninsula with people spamming "4 DKS LF HEALS PST", meaning I got little instance experience in my field (i.e. not a healer).
In fact, I barely did any instances until I hit Northrend, and even then, not til I was in my late 70s/80, because I don't really get consistent time to play - it's hard for me to devote a full hour to find a group, meet, run, and finish.
You don't need to be overly skilled with your class to solo your way to 80. It just means you're a bit slower in levelling, that's all. You can get away with only pulling 900dps, because you're only letting yourself down.
People assume that I'm reasonably experienced, because in prot or ret, I'm in blues and crafted epics, hit capped as ret, 540 defence as prot. I hold my own in a heroic, and proud of it - 2k+ dps isn't out of this world, but it's a damn shade better than a lot of scrubs you can run into. But I've never run AN, Gundrak, UP, HoS, even in normal, and won't know the boss battles unless someone tells me or I'm frantically looking it up online on my laptop. I didn't finish DTK, UK or VH until I was 80.
My brother criticises me because I don't 'need' things for off-spec - if I'm running DPS, I hesitate to need for tanking gear, lest I seem too needy at the end of the run. At least my paladin can hold my head high and not feel like he's been carried.
Edit: Anyway, got a little carried away in a bit of a personal rant. My point: It's not fair to judge other people on what they're wearing/using/doing if they're not experienced. H Nexus is a good example - you educate people there, because it's a 'starting' heroic as such, there's nothing wrong with not knowing any better, because sometimes they don't have the advantage of a huge high level guild to support them. The DK doing VoA deserved to get ditched though.
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The thing that gets me isn't the people who are free riders, or the people who just don't know the class or the mechanics. It is the people who are doing things blatently wrong and you tell them about it, and they try telling you that YOU'RE wrong. That is the main reason I PVP now, is to laugh at some of these people. 90% of pvpers have to pvp because it is the only way they can get epics because they suck so bad at the game.
Here is an example. I saw a prot pally in AV. He had a 50 spell damage enchant on his broken promise, and he also had stoicism and benediction. He had the naxx freebe gear, but the only piece of gear he had from ulduar was the bracers from flame laviathan 10 man. My exact words "I bet those bracers is the only piece of gear your going to get out of ulduar." He started getting an attitude with me, which is good because I wanted him to so I could call him stupid. I told him he was bad for taking stoicism and benediction in his tanking build, and a complete failure for taking 50 spell power over anything else. He then said he needed the spell power for concecration. I tried explaining that concecrate is no longer one of our big threat abilities, and that attack power does the same thing as spell power, and how strength is much better. He just didn't understand it. He kept calling me a twit. He wanted me to explain to him the talent that gives spell power from stamina. I did, but it wasn't enough for him to stop thinking spell power was the best threat stat.
I guess if some dumbass reads a guide and doesn't notice that the date on it says February 2007, let them be a dumbass.
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that reminds me of a pally "tank" that i was with that was all look i have 30k health unbuffed. they was wearing a mix of tanking plate, with ret pvp and caster plate...... not to mention that there spec was absolutely hideous, and whats worse is we asked them to dps and there duel spec ret spec was even worse, and they wore the same exact gear for both specs..... i wanted to cry at how bad they was.
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A prot PVP set would probably contain defence rating as well as resilience, and would put a higher focus on avoidance and block rating rather than crit. Not sure how you're picking your PVE equipment if those are your prot priorities :)
Having low crit would essentially make most of that extra resilience fairly useless to play against a Prot pally.
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