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333147
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Post by
GenXCub
I do not use it. I will not use it. Yes I understand how it works...
What this sounds like is that you're desperate to not be so cookie cutter. You're willing to throw out an optimal rotation so you can feel like you're a unique individual.
mmmmokay... I guess.
Post by
MischievousLoki
96969 is a guideline. You tweak it on the spot when necessary. People who say stuff like "I will not use it" and "I under stand how it works" in the same breath are just crazy. What do you do if not this? Do you just let abilities go unused because you don't like efficiency? Can you not follow the back and forth?
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333147
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Post by
PureGold
I am not trying to be un"cookie cutter" I was just saying that so i don't get flamed with "n00b learn to use it" then i get flamed with three pages of how and why it works.
As far as the DPS comment. I pump out an average of 1.7- 1.8k dps. Yes i know its not as high as 2134, but I don't run with people putting out less then me.
As far as the lazy comment, i think that is completely absurd.
Whats lazier? Knowing exactly what youre going to do before you do it
, or thinking on your feet as to which spell to use?
Did you just call psychics lazy...ohhh snap.
Edit: To be helpful, you sir are wasting our time.
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228908
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Post by
Squishalot
I agree with Caean.
What's the real purpose of this post - to find people who don't use a 9-6 rotation, or to identify to those who do that there are other ways to go?
If what you're saying is "look, I don't use the 9-6 rotation, so nyah!", then that's just trolling.
If what you're saying is "I don't use the 9-6 rotation, and you shouldn't either," then you should probably start with what you actually do (which is a nice starting point), followed up with a justification of why it's better.
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65116
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Post by
Korosha
Well I'll side with you because it seems no one else has and I partly agree with you. You asked if anyone didn't follow a 969 rotation and in response to that the answer is sometimes. The main reason isn't for laziness its because hitting the same rotation for hours in ulduar or naxx makes me want to fall asleep.
Now to clarify I don't bind all my offensive abilities to all the keys on my keyboard and just slam my fist on the keyboard and home I keep aggro, I have some reason behind breaking the rotation. I will throw avengers shield, holy wrath(in naxx), and exorcism in when I see fit and I'll give you some examples.
In naxx on KT if I'm tanking the adds I'll bring my adds to the other tank and throw an avengers shield and exorcism on the other tanks adds. This is done to ensure I'm #2 on aggro so if the tank dies or gets charmed I get the adds immeditely. There are similar fights such as razorscale and sarth that I do the same.
So I don't follow a strict rotation but I use it as a foundation. As someone mentioned it may reduce dps but if I keep aggro on my mobs and possibly save a dps from getting aggro and dying then I have made up for my lost dps by keeping someone with much higher dps alive.
Post by
Squishalot
The rotation isn't a set-in-stone sort of affair. There's no reason why you shouldn't 'break' the rotation if it meets your needs.
But the crux of it is that you're still going to be running as a foundation:
Start - Avenger's Shield
9 - Holy Shield
6 - Hammer of the Righteous
9 - Judgement
6 - Shield of Righteousness
9 - Consecrate
6 - HotR or other - Holy Wrath? Sacred Shield? Divine Plea, if it's not up already?
It's a template. Every 9 seconds, you can take 6 actions. You can only use Judgement, Holy Shield and Consecrate once. You can only use HotR and ShoR once, or twice if it's the first and last 6s. You can fill in the slots however you want.
Sure it might be boring, but so is flash of light spamming and facerolling your way through Ret, which doesn't even really have a rotation. If not following the rotation works for you, then don't follow it, and that's fair enough. But if you're min/maxing and trying to produce an optimal result (in gaming terms), then you'll be hard pressed to find something better.
I mean, you don't think it's boring, pugging your life away to get emblems and drops? If you're going for optimal results, then it's justifiable. If you're saying that pursuit of optimal results should give way to 'more interesting' things, then what are we all doing on WoW in the first place?
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321143
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Post by
Wizerd
I usually try to start on 969 but find myself doing this instead by habit:
1. Judgement
2. Shield of Righteousness
3. Holy Shield
4. Hammer of the Righteous
5. Consecrate
6. (priority) Avenger's Shield > Exorcism > Sacred Shield/Holy Wrath/HoSalv etc
7. Repeat from step 1
Holy Shield is up for the entire duration (I know I'm using it technically 10.5 sec apart but my uptime is showing 100% so perhaps the GCD isn't exactly 1.5sec; raid haste buffs affect that right?), Judgement always comes before ShoR for its maximum damage, and the damage lost by not using ShoR and HotR right off CD seems to be made up from Exorcism/AS/HW.
I seem to get the same results with following 969 strictly vs doing the above, in terms of TPS and DPS, even after testing both with the same raid setup/buffs on Patchwerk, and this way I get a "oops need to use an ability I don't normally use" slot if need be.
Post by
Squishalot
I usually try to start on 969 but find myself doing this instead by habit:
9-
1. Judgement
6-
2. Shield of Righteousness
9-
3. Holy Shield
6-
4. Hammer of the Righteous
9-
5. Consecrate
6-
6. (priority) Avenger's Shield > Exorcism > Sacred Shield/Holy Wrath/HoSalv etc
7. Repeat from step 1
9-
7. Judgement
6-
8. Shield of Righteousness
9-
9. Holy Shield
You're not using it improperly, that's a perfectly reasonable 9-6 rotation. Not sure how you got 10.5 seconds - you multiply GCD 1.5sec * 6 in the whole rotation, not 7.
Exo / AS / Holy Wrath etc are reasonable substitutes for any of the 6s, especially against undead. Exo is a better choice than ShoR against an undead mob, and Holy Wrath is better generally for demon/undead AOE. You adjust for the circumstances. But either way, you would correctly use them in the final slot of the rotation, not all in a bunch in the middle somewhere, because that throws all your 9 sec cooldowns out of whack.
Edit: spelling
Post by
Wizerd
You're not using it improperly, that's a perfectly reasonable 9-6 rotation. Not sure how you got 10.5 seconds - you multiply GCD 1.5sec * 6 in the whole rotation, not 7.
Haha, brain fart I suppose. That makes a lot more sense.
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442995
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Post by
svirve
BLASPHEMY!
*see i can also troll!*
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
969 is 4 nubs...real tanks chain taunt.
Post by
pezz
969 is 4 nubs...real tanks chain taunt.
Because you can't do much but taunt with your back to a mob, which is the proper way to tank.
Seriously though, 'I don't use 96969 and I can successfully do my job.' Well of course you can, prot threat is crazy. You seem to be confusing 'it is not necessary to theorycraft and min/max to do
Naxxramas
' with 'I am some kind of visionary, leading all of the world's paladins back to the light, which they have forsaken.'
So, if you can do your job without doing it perfectly, good for you. The rest of us will continue to be slightly better than you and laugh at your elitist attitude in an ironic manner.
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174101
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