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Weekly Debate #7: Parenting
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Post by
Deepthought
It makes them bad parents at the very least.
FALSE.
Just because parents spank their children doesn't mean they are bad parents. That comment is 100% opinion.
Not really, no.
If you do a good job raising your children, you will never be put into a position where you "need" to spank or hit them.
Of course, there are execeptions for extenuating circumstances in my opinion, but generally it shows a poorly developed child because the parents don't know what they're doing.
Note that bad parents =/= mean they don't want the best for their child (though they might not), it just means they've done a bad job of it.
Post by
TheMediator
Bad != !Perfect
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Post by
Deepthought
Bad != !Perfect
Well, duh.
Bad =/= Good.
Good =/= Perfect.
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Post by
Deepthought
Spanking does not make a parent bad.
Maybe not the act itself, but the parenting that causes the child to act in such a way that the parent decides that they must resort to spanking or striking? I think that can reasonablly be called bad parenting.
If spanking made a parent bad, then it would be as illegal as beating your child.
Would you prefer "is a sign of an incompetent or possibly bad parent"?
A bad parent neglects their children.
This is not the only way to be a "bad parent".
Interesting comment.
Are you a parent?
What an incredibly pointless question.
But no, I am not.
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Post by
TheMediator
So your child has a TV in their room, and limitless internet, and will just sneak out anyway? Fundamental parenting fail.
Some things are
rights
, like not being physically assaulted by people in a position of trust, and others are
privileges
, like every material possession your child owns.
Spanking and assault are 2
totally
different things. Don't confuse the 2.
QFT. Beating =/= Spanking, its been said a million times, they're not the same, get it in your head or get out of the thread.
Post by
Deepthought
Ugh, it's 3 AM here, that's too much to respond to in one go for me at the moment, so I'm going to bed. If this is still going when I wake up (I won't say "tommorow") I'll keep arguing, but otherwise I guess you win by default.
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Post by
MyTie
If you do a good job raising your children, you will never be put into a position where you "need" to spank or hit them.
QFT
I'm going to halfway agree here. It is the parents fault if they are left in a position where they have to spank a child. However, if that situation comes, which is a good possibility, it would be another mistake not to spank. Picture a child's behavior as a train. If it gets going to fast, you just slow the engines till it is at a reasonable speed. However, if you don't you may need to slam on the emergency brake before you collide with the next train. That is what spanking is, it is the emergency brake. It is your responsibility to slow the engines before it even becomes an issue. However, you aren't a perfect parent, and if things get a little out of control, the emergency brake prevents the wreck.
Post by
ASHelmy
I am sorry to hear about that Elura :(, however, I don't think that this thread is really for you, you will work yourself up for nothing (also, you opinion is clouded, but whatever).
Deepthought, sometimes a kid needs spanking and it's not the parents fault; you can't control a child's life 100% of the time. I pretty much agree with what TheMediator and Zaputo said so far.
And TheMediator, my respect for you rises every time I read your opinions, may I ask how old you are?
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MyTie
I'm going to halfway agree here. It is the parents fault if they are left in a position where they have to spank a child. However, if that situation comes, which is a good possibility, it would be another mistake not to spank. Picture a child's behavior as a train. If it gets going to fast, you just slow the engines till it is at a reasonable speed. However, if you don't you may need to slam on the emergency brake before you collide with the next train. That is what spanking is, it is the emergency brake. It is your responsibility to slow the engines before it even becomes an issue. However, you aren't a perfect parent, and if things get a little out of control, the emergency brake prevents the wreck.
And every time you slam on that emergency brake, the metal joints gets a bit more loosened up, until one of these days when you attempt to slam on the brake and finds it completely jammed, and you just wish that you had tried to simply eased on the brakes before.
I couldn't agree more. Those brakes should only be used in case of emergency, and the parent should take the precautions to avoid emergencies. However, if you find yourself in an emergency, don't just let the train wreck.
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Dralas
How exactly did we get into an analogy of trains? Makes sense, but still.
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