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MyTie
An eye for an eye? I would say that the person who was in exile with a "R" on thier forehead got off easy compared to the person that they raped.
The point isn't revenge. The point is deterance.
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TheMediator
An eye for an eye? I would say that the person who was in exile with a "R" on thier forehead got off easy compared to the person that they raped.
The point isn't revenge. The point is deterance.
Murder constitutes the death penalty administered publically, by hanging.
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Patty
I think things like rapists, peadophiles, murderers et cetera should be marked as what they are blatantly, and let the public deal with them.
I would rip them limb from limb personally.
Any MyTie, I agree with you fully. If people breach other people's human rights why should theirs be respected?
Why should rapists, peadophiles and other breachers of human rights be treated humanely?
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MyTie
An eye for an eye? I would say that the person who was in exile with a "R" on thier forehead got off easy compared to the person that they raped.
The point isn't revenge. The point is deterance.
Murder constitutes the death penalty administered publically, by hanging.
The person hanged still got off easier. In the end they knew what was coming, and knew they deserved it, and had the opportunity to present a case in court. The person they murdered was afforded none of that.
Again, this is not a capitol punishment thread.
@Patty - I think you are confused. I'm the one argueing for stricter punishments.
Edit Edit: No... she just confused her quote boxes.
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Patty
I know you are, I am saying I agree that if people breach other, innocent people's rights, why should they be entitled to them?
And I deleted the confused quote box thing, got confused myself with it lol.
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TheMediator
An eye for an eye? I would say that the person who was in exile with a "R" on thier forehead got off easy compared to the person that they raped.
The point isn't revenge. The point is deterance.
Murder constitutes the death penalty administered publically, by hanging.
The person hanged still got off easier. In the end they knew what was coming, and knew they deserved it, and had the opportunity to present a case in court. The person they murdered was afforded none of that.
Again, this is not a capitol punishment thread.
Its still an eye for an eye.
Post by
MyTie
Ivvokk - I think it is ridiculous that child rapists get off with 3- 5 years and thier name on a public list. Even that public list is getting argued against.
Why don't we just send child rapists to the corner for 15 minutes? There needs to be accountibility. Stricter punishments will see a decrease in crime.
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Fathios
Ivvokk - I think it is ridiculous that child rapists get off with 3- 5 years and thier name on a public list. Even that public list is getting argued against.
Why don't we just send child rapists to the corner for 15 minutes? There needs to be accountibility. Stricter punishments will see a decrease in crime.
I must say I agree. Again, some of yours were over-the-top--death penalty I agree with *sort of*, but by public hanging is a stretch--but rapists and child molesters really should get off so much worse than they do now. TBH, sometimes it seems like cops currently rely on the other inmates' hatred of rapists to deal with them (in the whole "Even Criminals have Standards" type of thing)
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MyTie
Fine, MyTie, in a completely hypothetical situation: Your daughter gets caught trafficking small amounts of marijuana, no more than 6 dimes. Do you still consider exile or 30 years in prision or permanent exile reasonable punishment. 6 dimes is, what, less than 2 pounds? Are 2 pounds of marijuana trafficking (keep in mind marijuana is a soft drug very popularly accepted by society and readily availiable everywhere) enough to justify the removal of a person from their place of birth, childhood, from their family, job (granted she'd probably lose it anyways), and everything they have?
Would you like to see your daughter incarcerated for 30 years because of 2 pounds of a commonly availiable substance?
Yes. I believe my daughter should, and will be held to the same consequences of the rest of society. My job as a dad is to teach her right now that there are consequences to her actions, so that when she gets there, she has half a mind to NOT make those mistakes.
However, hypothetically speaking, if my daughter grew up to be a drug dealer, she wouldn't deserve the freedom to live among the law abiding rest of us. I would help her pack her bags though.
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Post by
Patty
Ivvokk - I think it is ridiculous that child rapists get off with 3- 5 years and thier name on a public list. Even that public list is getting argued against.
Personally, life in prison for rape and child molestation sounds fair to me. Giving someone a permanent, physical label like a "P" on their forehead is going too far.
Well at least make life last as long as life, and prison not as cosy, in Britain murderers get Sky TV and everything...Sort out the justice system tbh.
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MyTie
Yes. I believe my daughter should, and will be held to the same consequences of the rest of society. My job as a dad is to teach her right now that there are consequences to her actions, so that when she gets there, she has half a mind to NOT make those mistakes.
However, hypothetically speaking, if my daughter grew up to be a drug dealer, she wouldn't deserve the freedom to live among the law abiding rest of us. I would help her pack her bags though.
There is a MASSIVE difference between what doing what is lawful and doing what is correct, you are a smart person, you should be able to see the difference.
The two are not always synonomous, true, but they are also not mutually exclusive. In the case of drug dealing, they are synonomous. Illegal drug dealers do not belong in my society. Period. I don't care if that drug dealer is my daughter/wife/son/etc... they don't belong.
Edit: And having a "P" tattooed on your forehead sounds harsh? Imagine what the child went through. Try to use empathy. I know you have it. Empathize with that child.
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Post by
MyTie
Well at least make life last as long as life, and prison not as cosy, in Britain murderers get Sky TV and everything...Sort out the justice system tbh.
It angers you that prisioners get television? They physically and psychologically
need
ties into the outter world, other wise they become agresive and may go insane. If that were th case you cannot assure the safety of
anyone
who is in that prision, whether guard or inmate. The reason convicts have televisions is not for the sake of their comfort, but for their safety, the safety of other convicts, and the safety of anyone who works in that prision.
Also, if it comes to the point where it necessary, there is such a thing as solitary confinement, and it
can
be for life.
Prisoners need TV for the sake of thier sanity? And my arguements are the ridiculous ones?
Tattoo thier forhead, and send them to prison. Four walls, soup, water, and plumbing. Done.
Post by
Patty
Well at least make life last as long as life, and prison not as cosy, in Britain murderers get Sky TV and everything...Sort out the justice system tbh.
It angers you that prisioners get television? They physically and psychologically
need
ties into the outter world, other wise they become agresive and may go insane. If that were th case you cannot assure the safety of
anyone
who is in that prision, whether guard or inmate. The reason convicts have televisions is not for the sake of their comfort, but for their safety, the safety of other convicts, and the safety of anyone who works in that prision.
Also, if it comes to the point where it necessary, there is such a thing as solitary confinement, and it
can
be for life.
So all people pre-television were crazy?
The people who get raped/assaulted will never be the same in their life, yet the prisoners get more luxury than the victim, It is a ^&*!ing joke.
It angers me that Prisoners for serious things get treated with luxury, to some extent. Some general, hard working families don't have some of the pros that prisoners do, and they don't deserve it.
The point of being in prison is being away from the outside world as punishment for your crimes.
Life should mean life, I am just re-iterating that point.
Post by
TheMediator
You sound pretty heartless. If my brother was going to get arrested for having an illegal drugs, I'd help him evade jail time anyway I could, then I'd try to change his habit myself. Now, if he murdered someone, that's different. Your moral system is pretty flawed if you consider drug possession and murder on the same tier.
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