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A Question for All of you Climate People (Now about Other Stuff!)
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Laihendi
Queggy: The new MyTie?
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240135
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Post by
Skyfire
Queggy: The new MyTie?
MyTie isn't religious. I.e, he's a joy to argue with, because he doesn't just point and say "God exists. Sew thar."
Post by
Sagramor
Queggy: The new MyTie?
MyTie isn't religious. I.e, he's a joy to argue with, because he doesn't just point and say "God exists. Sew thar."
I'm religious and never point and say: God did that. The problem isn't religion. The problem is blind faith.
Post by
Laihendi
Queggy: The new MyTie?
MyTie isn't religious. I.e, he's a joy to argue with, because he doesn't just point and say "God exists. Sew thar."
+ seal of approval
Post by
Queggy
the second denial
What? I'm not denying anything except that God is false. (And all the arguments that go along with that.)
tell me, how does: Does not everything come from God? not mean that you are saying that what I call a secular, you call divine, simply because you say that god does exist?
You're confusing me. Everything is divine by your logic of what I'm saying. You're making my head hurt. Your arguments make no sense to me right now. X(
Queggy: The new MyTie?
MyTie isn't religious. I.e, he's a joy to argue with, because he doesn't just point and say "God exists. Sew thar."
I'm religious and never point and say: God did that. The problem isn't religion. The problem is blind faith.
I'm not trying to be "blindly religious". I'm trying to explain things from my point of view, the problem is that I don't know how to word it all.
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240135
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Post by
Skyfire
Well, believing that God created everything leaves no questions or holes that Evolution or any other theory does. The Bible tells such and such and that's how it was. Sorry, more stuff to accept on faith. But people accept other things on faith, why not religion? Such as evolution. People say that such-and-such proves Evolution, yet have you seen their experiments with your own eyes? If you haven't then you are accepting what they say on faith.
For one, don't deflect. I asked for reasoning, not belief.
For two, I accept them on plausibility. And on the idea that if evolution doesn't exist, then that disproves all of science, because evolution uses the model behind science to prove that it
does
exist.
If evolution doesn't exist, that would mean the computers you and I are communicating with, the Internet we're communicating over, and chemistry are a result of God.
I'm not buying that. It doesn't concern you that "believing God did everything leaves no questions or holes"? That you are never yourself curious about how stuff works? How toilets work for example. You wouldn't imagine how cool they are. That's a work of God?
How do we know it wasn't of "Biblical proportions"? Sorry, I just haven't heard about any science stuff on the Flood. Have they not found fossils of fish way up on top of mountains? Would that not suggest that they were once covered in water?
Such fossils are indicative of the theory of tectonics, last I checked. Either the mountains moved or the water did, and since we can explain why the mountains moved, then that's probably why.
And yes, there are a handful of theories out there about the great flood. I saw a History channel documentary that said "yeah, we think it actually happened, but we still don't know why".
First - Judaism and Christianity are very closely related, except they don't believe that Christ has come yet. So their older histories will be the same as Christians.
Second - I don't know much about Islam, so I can't comment on that particularly.
Third - I've read some of the older mythologies (Greek, Norse, Egyptian) but they could never provide a satisfactory answer as to creation, life, and other issues.
A satisfactory answer? You choose not to question God above but now you question... Gods? That's contradictory, and you know it.
What's wrong with Ra creating life on Earth, or Zeus? We have Mt. Olympus standing, which is even better proof that the Greek gods existed than we have proof of the Christian god, wouldn't you say?
Sorry, not really trying to "copout". It's just that I have no one one my side to help me argue this out. :\
Also, wouldn't the proper person to talk to be an ordained minister and not me?
No, because I would have absolutely
no
ability to sway an ordained minister. Thus, arguing with a minister would be a waste of my time. You on the other hand, are still young (so you claim, though we know you to be a teenager), so I figure that perhaps I can get you to think otherwise. :)
Post by
Sagramor
I know this doesn't have much to do with this thread but I just remembered a line from the last Family Guy Episode.
Brian: Stewie, you're judgementaly quoting Bible verses and you don't even know how to read!
Stewie: Welcome to America Brian!
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240135
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Post by
Jaspirac
My son says "baa" to all of this. Then he /yawns and /poops.
Now I have a diaper to change. That is fact.
Post by
Queggy
What's wrong with Ra creating life on Earth, or Zeus? We have Mt. Olympus standing, which is even better proof that the Greek gods existed than we have proof of the Christian god, wouldn't you say?
I have to leave for a bit, so I'll get to your other things later, but real quick I wanted to answer this. If Mt. Olympus is proof that the Greek Gods are real or more real, than wouldn't Mount Zion or the Hill of Calvary proof Jesus? That's what it seems like you're saying with that logic.
Anyways I'll get back to the other things later.
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240135
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Post by
Skyfire
except the specifics, plus he is saying it is as much proof (because of the specifics of greek mythology the mountains are more proof in than they in christian mythology, but basically he is saying it is just as rediculous, and there is as much proof)
Exactly. Just because the universe exists does not mean we should attribute it to God. And that it's ridiculous to discount other mythology based on "well, that just doesn't make sense" when Christian god doesn't make sense.
I await your longer reply.
Post by
Sagramor
We should really change the subject. The arguments are starting to get repetitive. And it doesn't seem like anyone is gonna change their minds.
Post by
Skyfire
The arguments are starting to get repetitive.
Er, where?
Post by
Laihendi
What's wrong with Ra creating life on Earth, or Zeus? We have Mt. Olympus standing, which is even better proof that the Greek gods existed than we have proof of the Christian god, wouldn't you say?
I have to leave for a bit, so I'll get to your other things later, but real quick I wanted to answer this. If Mt. Olympus is proof that the Greek Gods are real or more real, than wouldn't Mount Zion or the Hill of Calvary proof Jesus? That's what it seems like you're saying with that logic.
Anyways I'll get back to the other things later.
No, he's saying there's just as much "evidence" supporting one religion as there is for another. Except the "evidence" doesn't prove anything.
Post by
L33tsauce
You know, I never really got what the whole God-vipe was all about. Really, I just don't get it. At all.
Buddhism is a nice religion, because there isn't anything like this to worry about. People ask me, "How does your religion explain things?". I tell them, "It explains that people need to be nicer, and that's all I need." No need to back myself up with information from religious text, or quotes from holy men.
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Sagramor
You know, I never really got what the whole God-vipe was all about. Really, I just don't get it. At all.
Buddhism is a nice religion, because there isn't anything like this to worry about. People ask me, "How does your religion explain things?". I tell them, "It explains that people need to be nicer, and that's all I need." No need to back myself up with information from religious text, or quotes from holy men.
The only problem with your argument is that Buddhism isn't a religion.
Post by
Laihendi
You know, I never really got what the whole God-vipe was all about. Really, I just don't get it. At all.
Buddhism is a nice religion, because there isn't anything like this to worry about. People ask me, "How does your religion explain things?". I tell them, "It explains that people need to be nicer, and that's all I need." No need to back myself up with information from religious text, or quotes from holy men.
1338 posts, busted.
Edit: Blast, foiled again!
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