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Post by
Lightrain
If anything, druid swipe would be to try to get rogues out of stealth while they have cloak of g@yness on.
Now, the real reason IMO for 360 swipe? Cat dps. It's a royal pain sometimes to get that one mob you have selected in range, and with the rest of the mobs in range(it didn't go chase that huntard who pulled aggro on it....). Making kitty swipe more like Fan of Knives.
WTB "Infected Wounds- Now includes swipe."
IMO, the Berzerker nerf is horrible tho. Rogues and hunters are a major enemy of a feral druid. They are now going to be twice as annoying to kill(or kill their healer.....).
Post by
Kutkh
This will be significant for initial pulls, for I can simply charge in grp and start spamming Swipe without rolling my bear butt around on the dancefloor.
I know what you're saying, but you can't say that you think the mob positioning logic is the same in WotLK as it was in TBC. I used to be able to grab a group and back up a few steps and they'd all converge in front of me. Now, if I back up a few steps, half of them run through me and attack my butt.
@your previous post -- I was in a group last night with a hunter who had JOURNEY'S END and was also wearing SIX blues. He was pulling 1300 DPS. The other two members of the group doing "DPS" were a mage and a rogue. The rogue was averaging 500 and the mage was just above him. I don't understand how this is even possible. The BEST part of it all is that the mage dropped group right before the last boss because (I can only assume) he was tired of getting himself killed by doing stupid crap.
Hah this pretty much summs my all "pug wotlk" experience in heroics. Breaking my bear foot on mother*!@#ing waltz everytime some smartass uses knockoff aoe and getting out of my peaceful state when some of those starts yelling AGGRO.
PUG DPS is special story. I got used to have 1k more DPS in bear than randoms who call themselves "DPS".
Post by
Aadramelekh
Indeed, the fact that Blizzard decided to make end game content available to players much faster than in BC has turned into a f
u
cking chore for PUGing. In BC there was that reputation requirement (at first revered, then honored, which was a reasonable level, revered taking too long to obtain) to enter certain groups of heroics associated with certain factions. As such, those who entered them knew the tactics and usually had a sense of what they were doing, because they had run a considerable number of normal dungeons before.
Now most n00bs level to 80 by solo questing and then they jump into the snot-brainers band wagon by entering in heroics not only geared in lvl 75 blue rewards and sometimes greens, but also (
and more important, dammit!
) not having set one foot in those dungeons before.
This approach has allowed all n00btards access to content that also average or above average skilled players need to farm (for emblems and some gear) and thus PUG for it, and in turn making a living hell out of what was supposed to be an
enjoyable
video gaming experience for
everyone
.
Grararararrararrrrgh X(
Sorry for the rant.
*waiting for flaming from
foleynuts
for being a n00b tank that can't hold aggro against tards*
Post by
144872
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Post by
pelf
hey!... thats a clever way to bybass the profanity filter!
I think you just opened a can of worms!
PS. I think
this
was enough flame for every other post you may have!
He's been doing that for months. Way to open your eyes.
Post by
curlymon
hey!... thats a clever way to bybass the profanity filter!
I think you just opened a can of worms!
He's been doing that for a good month or so that I have noticed. It has been entertaining to read sometimes.
Post by
144872
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
curlymon
/cheer foleynuts
/cryforjoy
There I'm happy and will leave you to your complimenting without further antagonism. :P
Post by
pelf
Its still clever!
God.. cant I give the guy a compliment?
It doesnt happen offten.
Dont ruin the moment.
One good turn deserves another.
Post by
Aadramelekh
I give no compassion for any person who's "main" is a DK. Period. I have no problems with alts as DK's, but not rerolling PoS's that upgrade a DK to their "main" because they suck at their old "main."
You guys are so evil. My alt is a DK and I like that big fat cow as well >:O And guess what (
foleynuts
is gonna burn my as
s
again, I bet) - I am still
the imba pussy cat
!
You still need to position them in front of you.
If you're letting a mob beat on you from behind with the attitue "oh its ok.. my swipe is hitting him", you're a bad tank.
QFT
I remember the days (about one year ago) when I used to
tank the trash mob waves
in the Battle for Mount Hyjal... Oh man...
3 target Swipe FTW
(*ahem* 60% dodge kekekeke) :>
Post by
262843
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Post by
Fanoran
Indeed, the fact that Blizzard decided to make end game content available to players much faster than in BC has turned into a f
u
cking chore for PUGing. In BC there was that reputation requirement (at first revered, then honored, which was a reasonable level, revered taking too long to obtain) to enter certain groups of heroics associated with certain factions. As such, those who entered them knew the tactics and usually had a sense of what they were doing, because they had run a considerable number of normal dungeons before.
Now most n00bs level to 80 by solo questing and then they jump into the snot-brainers band wagon by entering in heroics not only geared in lvl 75 blue rewards and sometimes greens, but also (
and more important, dammit!
) not having set one foot in those dungeons before.
This approach has allowed all n00btards access to content that also average or above average skilled players need to farm (for emblems and some gear) and thus PUG for it, and in turn making a living hell out of what was supposed to be an
enjoyable
video gaming experience for
everyone
.
Grararararrararrrrgh X(
Sorry for the rant.
Oh god so true. As of late though, on my server, I haven't had too many issues with that. I can put up with a lot of crap to be honest, and when I PUG, i only pug the easy ones. The only challenge is finding a competent healer, because no matter how bad the DPS are, I'm geared to the point where me and the healer could do it by ourselves anyway.
As for the 360 swipe it really doesnt seem to make a noticeable difference tanking wise. Now Kitty swipe, on the other hand, is where you'll see the difference.
Post by
curlymon
I really only see the 360 swipe as a way to pick up a mob running past behind you, with out having to dislocate 3 fingers and a hip in the process.
Post by
Themongnator
8 yards... yay :)
Matches the other tanks:
Consecration is 8
Thunder Clap is 8
D&D and Pestilence are 10 yards, blood boil is
30 yards
?
Wait,,, what?
Nerf death knights!
lets look at something else?
Concecration 8 sec CD (on a ret.. not sure about a prot. prolly less)
Thunderclap 4 sec CD (if i remember correctly)
D%D ...... holy crap.. 30 seconds! (15 with spec)
Pestilence 1 blood rune..
so why are you complaining?.... seems pretty even to me..
nother thing. I played a warrior tank before my DK tank, and dk's are NOT the easiest to tank with.. And neither are they the easiest to play..
I mean, what do you do with a druid?.. spam whatever skills you use, watch your rage?., same with a druid?.., Watch your mana with a pally?..
DK: go through your rotations, watch your Runic power (if the tanks ur hanging out with dont use their RP, then you should stop hanging out with the nubs =0 )
PS: my main atm is a resto shammy, and out of all the tanks out there. Most of the time, the DK's are the hardest to heal, if you tank a druid, a warrior, a pally, and a DK.. out of all 4, ive had the most trouble healing the DK.
Post by
144872
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Post by
pelf
@Aa, you need some better DPS in your guild. If I pull 5.4k DPS I'm still going to be behind about 5 or more people :\.
Post by
303152
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Post by
curlymon
... eventually druids will get a name of a horrible class and Blizz will take a look at it and try to buff us to make us look a bit more appealing to these people again and we will be OP...
5. THEN we will get slammed by a round of nerfs leaving us weaker then we are now...
I just don't see it happening. The nerfs, yes. The OP part, No. When were Druids ever OP?
Were you aware of how feral tanking worked in BC? THAT was OP... I personaly tanked VR for 8 minute solid blocks of time just because no one could touch my threat gen even if I got the occasional 25% reduction to it... This was
well
before the 3.0 buff/nerf that happened. My guild used to joke that I need salv on me just so the other tanks could not feel pointless..
Resto was definately OP in BC as well and that one carried over into Wrath all the way 'til just now...
All that aside it was a
joke
...
Post by
ignis86
I was the only tank who needed salv when Off-tanking.... >.> Used to Raid with salv always on, so i could have when dpsing and it didn't hurt me when tanking.
(ie for gruul bears made better OT's than any other class)
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