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3.2 Frost Tanking Changes
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Eleazer
Wow! Is all I can say. I went from being able to tank Ulduar to barely having the health to tank Naxx 25. I lost a total of 1.7k health due to the nerf. Having said that I did notice several things.
1. Single disease tanking is still applicable though it is a dps/threat loss though I didn't see enough to make me worry too much about it.
2. Icebound Fortitude did not get an extended cooldown time like promised which came as a huge relief to me.
3. My parry went up 4 percent due to the changes made.
4. So I gained a nice increase in avoidance while taking a huge nerf in stamina. Stamina is easy to make up avoidance is not.
I figure we will need to trinket for stamina now, considering the changes made. All-in-all it looks like gearing will finally be important to DK tanking.
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Eleazer
Sam, I got the snot kicked out of me while tanking Heroic VH. I was camped at around 15k health. I got kicked out of Naxx run for not having enough health lol. I am in Naxx 25/ulduar tanking gear, and they were afraid that I would die. I know in the new 5 man. The priest kept going holy cow they are crushing you, which was ticking me off because I had worked so hard to get the gear I have. It's the first time in a long time I was praying for heals to come. I am about 5k health behind a lower geared pali tank in our guild now. He has mainly Tier 7 level gear but with the new buff to Blessing of Sanctuary.
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Eleazer
I went from 27.7k stam to 26k HP in frost presence. My avoidance is close to 55 percent. I am expertise capped and sitting at 8 percent hit. I have two dodge trinkets ;p. I don't like Essence of Gossamer and always used my trinkets for avoidance. I would rarely get hit, but when I did it would look worse. I wasn't difficult to heal, just scared people sometimes. The armor nerf was pretty nasty. I went from 27k Armor unbuffed to 25.5k armor unbuffed which is pretty nasty. I am still wandering around in the VH epic Defense leggings and pvp bracers, but other than that I am rocking it. I could regem a few things lose a few avoidance and gain about 1-2k health, just haven't done it yet.
Raid buffed I lost close to 5k the upper tier DK's I am hearing are losing anywhere from 5-7k in raid buffed health especially blood tanks. Are you blood or frost tank Bara?
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Eleazer
Are you guys sure IBF didn't get nerfed?
I am still seeing only a 2 minute cooldown, unless it used to be 1 minute before and I never noticed it. I generally only used it every 2 minutes anyways, so I don't really see a difference lol.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about.
I had no issues tanking heroic new instance yesterday (besides the fact that I fail at picking up adds when we jump off horses, so 3 out of 3 times it was a wipe ... 1 heroic and 2 regulars).
But other than that, it was fine. Pop IBF, when it's up, pop dodge trinket, and it's fine. Yes once hp dipped into low 10's k, but I'm not clear about healer, he did have all epics, but just don't know if they are good or not ... I was told by another healer that the instance is hell to heal.
Little off topic:
When the last boss does his army of the dead, you should drop D&D, and pop your army. D&D will make sure all his adds - even if popped first - go for you, and your army of undead will tank all of his army, plus the boss too. It's pretty funny, once I saw him pop the army, I was like 'wtf, I can do that too', hehehe It's sweet, DK vs. DK.
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Eleazer
anywhere it didn't have anything to do with trouble tanking it. The problem was our health was diving down quickly. I had no problem picking up adds and tanking them. You said you self you saw your health dipping below 10k for me that's considered bad if it even happens once. Think about it this way. I tanked for 30 seconds on Emalon without a heal, in VoA 10. Trinket popping cooldowns going. Rarely in a heroic did I ever see my health or ever in a 10 man raid get below 10k. I saw it way too much in several fights last night. MY gm who has continued to ask me to tank for our Group 1 last night said um, "Let's get another tank. Your health is dropping too fast." When the healer is spamming heals just to keep you above 15k. The truth is the stamina nerf combined with the toughness nerf was alot more than anyone forsaw. I went from 36k Raid buffed to 31k that's a huge drop. I am now below many warrior and Pali tanks health. Considering we are avoidance tanks shouldn't we have more health like Druids do?
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