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3.2.2 Unholy PvE
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Naxxos
Here's how OB and SS stack up in 3.2.2:
SS: 9% crit (subversion) 6% crit (Vicious Strikes) 20% damage (Outbreak)
OB: 9% crit (subversion) 20% damage (glyph)
So far it looks like SS is once again king.
Let's get this out of the way - glyph of SS is nooby. I would rather use Glyph of Dark Death, Ghoul and Disease. A rotation would look like this:
AOE: PS IT Pest BB SS DC SS SS Pest BB ~ etc
Single: PS IT BS BS SS DC SS SS Pest BS ~etc
This spec is looking tasty.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVZZfMhIxcbx0zx0uIqo
Lots of crit from talents, plus all the essentials from Unholy tree.
/2c
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Here's how OB and SS stack up in 3.2.2:
SS: 9% crit (subversion) 6% crit (Vicious Strikes) 20% damage (Outbreak)
OB: 9% crit (subversion) 20% damage (glyph)
So far it looks like SS is once again king.
Let's get this out of the way - glyph of SS is nooby. I would rather use Glyph of Dark Death, Ghoul and Disease. A rotation would look like this:
AOE: PS IT Pest BB SS DC SS SS Pest BB ~ etc
Single: PS IT BS BS SS DC SS SS Pest BS ~etc
This spec is looking tasty.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVZZfMhIxcbx0zx0uIqo
Lots of crit from talents, plus all the essentials from Unholy tree.
/2c
Don't forget the crit damage bonus also from Vicious Strikes
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MegaVolt
Newest theorycrafting says:
Right now: SS = Ob
3.22: SS > Ob
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Naxxos
Right now IS 3.2.2
Not much theorycrafting to do TBH.
SS: 9% crit, 6% crit, 20% damage, 30% critical damage
OB: 9% crit, 20% damage
Those are the DPS gains for each ability assuming a non-retarded spec/glyphs.
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MegaVolt
Not sure why some specs take Epidemic, shouldn't IT and PS just be a normal part of your rotation, and if so, pestilence is easy to fit in there under the normal 15 sec disease timer. Also, not sure how you can justify not taking UB. I might even glyph for it now that I'm losing OB. And Gyph of SS is lame. Better off with UB glyph or w/e you want.
Moar time on DoTs = moar time to spam SS = less IT+PS = MOAR DPS = win... that's why you should glyph SS and take Epidemic.
IT+PS are actually a part of the rotation but that's doesn't mean that you need to use them in every rotation, SS is way better.
I don't get why ppl should refresh diseases with Pestilence doing 0 damage and actually wasting a better glyph.
I think IT+PS don't actually do that much less damage then SS and the talents other then epidemic and a glyph other then SS will in the end provide more dps then those abilities would.
Right now IS 3.2.2
For you maybe, my server was slower ;) SS ftw now!
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Zandranas
I'm happy with the changes to Scourge Strike, but why did they have to nerf my 2% bone shield dmg? If blizz wanted to make Bone Shield a pure tanking talent they should bury it behind some filler points a la AMZ and move the 2% dmg buff in with MoG similar to the BM hunter talent.
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Bllets
Not sure why some specs take Epidemic, shouldn't IT and PS just be a normal part of your rotation, and if so, pestilence is easy to fit in there under the normal 15 sec disease timer. Also, not sure how you can justify not taking UB. I might even glyph for it now that I'm losing OB. And Gyph of SS is lame. Better off with UB glyph or w/e you want.
Moar time on DoTs = moar time to spam SS = less IT+PS = MOAR DPS = win... that's why you should glyph SS and take Epidemic.
IT+PS are actually a part of the rotation but that's doesn't mean that you need to use them in every rotation, SS is way better.
I don't get why ppl should refresh diseases with Pestilence doing 0 damage and actually wasting a better glyph.
No. The highest dps from Unholy comes the 10sec rotation. Simple from the solo reason that SS is as weak as it is.
2H Unholy:
IT - PS - SS - BS - BS - DC - (HoW) - DC
IT - PS - SS - BS - BS - DC - DC
16/0/55 – If you don't yet have 4p t9, you'll want to shift a point from Dark Conviction into Bladed Armor, but otherwise this is your base 2H build. This spec is drastically different than all of its Unholy predecessors in the sense that it drops two previously considered mandatory and vastly valuable talents - Reaping and Epidemic. Reaping is a raw dps loss now, due to the fact that two Blood Strikes outdamage one Scourge Strike (and Obliterate is no longer an option, with the Dirge nerf). Epidemic, on the other hand, is still a dps gain; it's just not large enough of one to be worth taking over the alternatives (Desolation/Necrosis). The only fault of this build is in the AoE department - the lack of Epidemic, while worth it on single targets, does cause you to perform one less Blood Boil per 20 seconds. This loss is shared with the other three 'viable' 3.2.2 specs, however, and as such is considered quite acceptable, as it is relatively minor anyways. Your auto-attack will be the highest percent of your total damage, followed by your Ghoul and then your Death Coil. Death Coil plus it's subsequent UB will be your hardest hitting individual ability, followed closely by Scourge Strike.
http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t72364-3_2_2_unholy_dps_scourge_strike_its_love_story/
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frmorrison
now with SS back in the picture would the 0/10/61 be with full ilvl 219 or more..to be the better unholy spec?
i did not get bone shield since it only lasts for 1min and requires an unholy rune..on a boss fight that would be a lot of runes used that could be used in other ways..but that's just me..
No 16/0/55 is better, and gets stronger at higher gear levels.
To use Bone Shield, you have to replace a Blood Strike in the rotation (PS IT SS BS BS DC DC), so after the SS, do Blood Tap the macro /cast Bone Shield /cancelaura Blood Tap.
It is annoying, but a dps increase if you can handle it.
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