3.1 [PvE,PvP] : How to gain mana with rapture nerfed?

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Post by Slimda

Replenish. No cooldown on shields.

Post by Xuxa

Replenish. No cooldown on shields.

Yup.

But we can only shield the tank every 15 seconds.

Shields will actually come out giving more mana back then they cost in the patch, if they are consumed- correct? If thast the case, we will have to be fireing shields off into the raid to get absorbed and gain mana back.

I'm worried about not being viable tank healers in encounters when there isn't much damage flying around the raid. Like patchwerk, for example.

I really hope they add penance and DA to the rapture list. That way it encourages you to heal 'correctly' (as far as disc goes) and use your cooldowns and favor crit in your gear, ect.

Edit, this also is going to severely limit bringing two disc priests.

Post by karlusdavius

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Post by Xuxa

Welcome to the world which blizzard wanted you to be int he first place. People worry about not having enough mana. Maybe use your shadowfiend and a pot int he raid? they want us to be cautious. they want us not to spam. they have done a good job. mana on the ptr is fine for Discipline. You just have to adapt.

What about the point that this practically makes it impossible for two disc priests to be in the same raid? They could fix that by making weakened soul a caster debuff (if they could even work that in).

Will disc priests be able to heal heroics without replenishment now? Seems like you're going to burn through whatever mana you have really fast unless you gear non-optimally for disc and favor regen over crit.

I understand that in raids there are multiple ways to conserve mana, but they have made the main mana return ability for disc severely crippled to the point where it's simply non functional in several situations. It's those situations I'm worried about- multiple disc priests, non-replenishment situations, ect.

Post by razzem

mana on the ptr is fine for Discipline. You just have to adapt.
How do you find Disc compared to Holy for mana-efficiency on the PTR, Karl, or have you messed around with holy yet on the PTR to compare the two?

Post by karlusdavius

Yhe i've tried holy and i must say its actually really fun to play now they changed it all. Renew is just brilliant, they really have done a good job with it. Mana regen isn't really a problem. Pots and fiend are used but thats a good sign. People still cheat the 5SR in certain times. but its not really needed unless you spam for 2 mins straight.

Multiple Disc priests isn't really so bad. We now have 2 in our guild, me and Roadie. You will find that it helps a huge amount having disc priests on a tank each. and im pretty dam sure you will need more than one tanks for the encounters in Ulduar. Shield stealing (i call it anyway) doesn't really bother me. if the tank lives then great. i still get that 4% crit from her WS debuff. im a happy bunny.

Mana regen for Disc is fine in raids. i havent tried heroics. but saying that, most classes bring rep buff now anyway

Post by razzem

Thanks. Its been since Zul Aman that I've played holy, and the change to Renew looks fantastic. I could even see taking that runspeed pvp talent for some pve usage... people zipping all over the place. Hehe.

Again, thanks for the feedback.

3.1 [PvE,PvP] : How to gain mana with rapture nerfed?

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