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3.1 end game tankadin build/explination.
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340720
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Quest
If your DPS/HPS is mediocre and you mean offtanking... then sure.
Then your second build is possibly the worst last 9 points spent possible.
Wait no I found a slightly worce one!
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZE0xA0uMGsIufdVcb
woot.
Post by
Dunsinane
Improved Devotion Aura and Tree of Life do not stack.
There's a lot of question about whether Divinity is going to be particularly useful for endgame tanking.
Benediction is nearly worthless for Prot now, it'll be completely worthless when 3.1 hits with the changes to Divine Plea and Guarded by the Light.
Threat is going to become an actual concern.
So, no, it isn't as good as it gets.
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340720
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Quest
I just tested today.... they do infact stack.. and what exactly are they doing to divine plea/guarded by the light?
I thought you were pro :O
Post by
PureGold
I just tested today.... they do infact stack.. and what exactly are they doing to divine plea/guarded by the light?
No, they don't. Question not the glory that is Dunsinane!
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PureGold
I just tested today.... they do infact stack.. and what exactly are they doing to divine plea/guarded by the light?
I thought you were pro :O
They can't all be like us.
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340720
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PureGold
I just tested today.... they do infact stack.. and what exactly are they doing to divine plea/guarded by the light?
I thought you were pro :O
?o.o whend i say that? im actually semi new to prot pallys :P
About here
This build is about as good as it gets
^ Is a passive way of saying, I'm pro.
Post by
zoomie
To clarify a few things. First, contrary to popular belief, Imp Devo Aura and Tree of Life do not stack. Just like how blessing of might and a warriors battle shout do not stack because it is essentially the same buff in a different form.
Second, the reason divinity is being looked at as a not so great talent is because all it will do is add more overheal to your healers. If your at 30k out of 40k health, and a paladin lands a 15k crit heal on you, then its 5k overheal. Divinity would only make that overheal go up. I'm not sure if his divinity would stack with yours. If it does, then it would be 6.5k overheal instead of 5k. If not, then it would be 5750 overheal. Either way, its overheal and its wasted. For me it might just be a 2-3 point filler talent.
As for divine plea, the guarded by the light talent is making it so it refreshes for us every time we attack an enemy. So we could possibly have divine plea up 100% of the time. There is also a glyph that reduces damage taken by 3% while its active.
This is the build I am going to experiment with.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tAruMusIufdxf00b
It has 4 points left over. If I decide I want more threat I will put them in seals of the pure because it beats conviction on threat. I don't really know if I will do that because right now I maintain 7-8k TPS and I have neither SOTP or conviction so it would really be another waste of talent points.
Post by
blademeld
To clarify a few things. First, contrary to popular belief, Imp Devo Aura and Tree of Life do not stack. Just like how blessing of might and a warriors battle shout do not stack because it is essentially the same buff in a different form.
I think only the OP believes that. Blessing > Shout anytime though ;)
I'm not sure if his divinity would stack with yours.
I've heard that it does indeed stack! Only a rumor though.
This is the build I am going to experiment with.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tAruMusIufdxf00b
It has 4 points left over..
With people constantly putting 1/2 spiritual attunement, I'd laugh if they nerf it.
If I decide I want more threat I will put them in seals of the pure because it beats conviction on threat. I don't really know if I will do that because right now I maintain 7-8k TPS and I have neither SOTP or conviction so it would really be another waste of talent points
If what Quest claims is correct, then Conviction will soon become better with SoB tanking.
Personally, I don't care.
Post by
ocb05
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tAruMGsIufdxfMzb
That's my final build.
1 point for Seal of Command is just a filler.
2 points on Vindication = Easy farming or pvp (not too sure whether it affects raid trash or not)
2 points on Spirit Attunement : Well i am not so sure regarding the overkill issue, but more mana means better right? (and yeah, it looks nice when the talent is fully maxed out LOL)
So, any comments?
Post by
zoomie
With people constantly putting 1/2 spiritual attunement, I'd laugh if they nerf it.
I'm just planning on experimenting with it. If I need to put 2 points in it then fine. If not, no big deal.
Post by
Quest
If what Quest claims is correct, then Conviction will soon become better with SoB tanking.
Personally, I don't care.
You will first see salvation tossed out, but then there are only so many paladins in a raid. All in all if a DPS (melee probably) gets eaten then they should l2threat reduce. For me its a game in itself to see what combination of gear/spec/glyph/rotation ect does top TPS.
SotP is not as good DPS or TPS wise as what you get in ret, be it SoV and esp SoB.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~gehring/wowcalcs/3.1ptr/ta_perpoint.png
Post by
Quest
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tAruMGsIufdxfMzb
That's my final build.
1 point for Seal of Command is just a filler.
2 points on Vindication = Easy farming or pvp (not too sure whether it affects raid trash or not)
2 points on Spirit Attunement : Well i am not so sure regarding the overkill issue, but more mana means better right? (and yeah, it looks nice when the talent is fully maxed out LOL)
So, any comments?
Why would you want comments on that? Its obviously a build not meant for only one thing. Personal playing isnt really up for much opinion. If youre going to pvp/solo/tank then youre going to have to gimp something for something else.
Post by
Persen
Keep it on a decent level guys, you don't have to eat the guy for thinking wrong!
Your build sorta fails btw ^.^
Oh and Quest... I don't think you double just to get +posts, now do you?
Post by
Quest
Untill wowhead makes a better quoteing system this is how ill post. (basically when i click "Quote" logically it should ADD, and not replace)
Post by
blademeld
http://www.frontiernet.net/~gehring/wowcalcs/3.1ptr/ta_perpoint.png
There's no way that graph can be right.
The obvious flaw being that crusade is 1/2 1hws, therefore the tps should be half of it per point.
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