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Warlock Guide: Talents (3.0 UPDATED!)
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Sorry for the offtopic, but what do you think about my comments? =P
EDIT: Nef and Dun mostly
EDIT2: Not in this thread, but generally
PS: I just can't stop laughing to the "Scales well with spell damage." text on the Empowered Corruption talent comments =D It's just so "O'rly?"
And just to add few things I would change: Intensity isnt worth a C in PvE, maybe a D½ or C- and Improved searing pain: It has its uses in PvE, and that is, when the warlock is tanking (such events do exist, when the warlock is expected to tank at some point, so I wouldn't give it a F, or at least write something in the comments if you keep the F)
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What do you think about 31/6/24
Affliction
Imp. Corruption 5/5
Imp. Drain Soul 2/2
Imp. Life Tap 2/2
Fel Concentration 3/5
Amplify Curse 1/1
Grim Reach 2/2
Nightfall 2/2
Empowered Corruption 3/3
Shadow Embrace 2/5
Siphon Life 1/1
Shadow Mastery 5/5
Dark Pact 1/1
Demonology
Demonic Embrace 5/5
Fel Intellect 1/3
Destrution
Imp. Shadowbolt 5/5
Catalysm 5/5
Bane 5/5
Devastation 5/5
Shadowburn 1/1
Destructive Reach 2/2
Ruin 1/1
Tactic:
First Corruption and Siphon Life and then span Shadowbolt as much as you can. If you are out of mana just use Dark Pact to Imp (keep it at passive so it just regains mana and gives you Blood Pact) and a couple of Life Taps and then do another Corruption if need and use Drain Life until have at least 90% of you hp and then continue spamming Shadowbolt.
What i think:
Most of you say this is not gonna work because there's still missing talents Backslah and Shadow and Flame but Shadow Mastery replaces Shadow and Flame quite good and Nightfall Backslash. This is easy build and makes you spam shadowbolts with fast mana regain. Little mana regen in gear wouldn't be bad but anyways give some comments.
Edit: I just did karazhan without drinking with this build and i think same is in other raids
Post by
Dunsinane
Bad.
You have passed on Unstable Affliction, which outdamages Ruin at all but the highest levels of gear. This is a very common mistake.
You have picked up Cataclysm in a build with Dark Pact. As a warlock you should never be running out of mana unless you're dead or the healers are drained. With Dark Pact, this goes double.
2/5 Shadow Embrace is nonsensical. 5/5 for the debuff to help your tanks, 1/5 for the Soul Siphon benefit, or 0/5.
Demonic Embrace and (ugh) Fel Intellect are of very limited use in a raid setting.
Max your dots or max your shadow bolts. Trying to do both results in doing neither and underperforming. Go 41/0/18 +2.
(Oh, and by the way, I'm assuming the two missing points in Affliction are in Soul Siphon)
Your suggested strategy is poor for Kara or any group setting. Your healers should be filling in your life taps - or else your siphon life should be handling the job. Drain Life does significantly less damage than Shadow Bolt and your dots, and your job in a group is to bring the hurt.
No one is concerned about Backlash in an affliction-heavy build. Shadow Mastery does not make up for Shadow and Flame in a Ruin build. Any warlock that has mp5 on his gear deliberately should be summarilly drummed out of the corps.
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0/21/40 simply scales better. The reasoning is fairly straightforward when you look at the key differences between the two builds:
0/40/21 running a succubus:
+2% crit - a flat 2% dps bonus with Ruin
~80 spell damage from Demonic Knowledge (generous) - approximately 70 damage/shadow bolt cast, does not scale with better gear.
0/21/40 with sacrificed succubus:
+20% of spell damage applied directly to shadow bolts - approximately 200 damage/shadow bolt cast at low gear levels for the build. Scales very well with gear.
Furthermore, 0/40/21 is dependant on keeping a very fragile succubus alive for the duration of the fight, which is difficult to do among aoe-heavy trash in TK and SSC, along with fights such as Nightbane, Netherspite, Gruul and A'lar.
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