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Post by
EzenceII
2 Pts Improved Devine Spirit or 5 Pts on Empowered Healing?
Taking Empowered healing from 5 points to 3 points will free up two points for Improved Devine Spirit.
I will loose 8% on Flash heals and Binding heals and 6% on my bonus healing effect.
But my Divine Spirit buff will increase damage and healing by 10% of their total spirit.
Reason I ask is because I do not need to do much in wow appart from end game activities, such as raids. So will the Imp Divine Spirit will be a significant improvement?
Spec I am thinking of:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxt0zhxzbZsxxcc0qVuc
Current Spec:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxt0zhxzZfLxcczqVhV
Let me know what you think would be best for 25 man raids.
Post by
Pukah
I see no point in having 1/2 points in imp fort... in our guild we have one spirit priest and the rest usually do a build like these to maximize thier heals. It all depends on your play style and what your guild needs.
Spirit Priest
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg0zhxubZfxxcc0VVh
*3/5 in mental strength since thier heals will not be as strong and may need that extra mana.
Holy Build
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg00hLZfxxcf0VVhVo
*nice to have the extra radius on CoH (which no longer sucks) for fights like VR, Al'ar, Tidewalker, Fathom Lord, or general trash where mass group healing is needed
Also it has been awhile since I raid healed (SP now) but these both worked well for me.
Post by
sugarzombie
2 pts imp DS looks best for 25 man raids, unless another priest in the raid group already has it... then go 5/5 emp healing
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Post by
Pukah
This so since Mental Agility is kind of a waiste, since the only instant spell you use is PoM and that one dosn't cost too much mana anyway so it would not make a bit difference.
in addition i would go deeper in the holy tree, with talents that effect your healing range of PoM and PoH this could just make the difference.
btw circle of healing is instant cast, and very mana intensive
Post by
EzenceII
Thanks all for the response so far..
I am a little confused
I see no point in having 1/2 points in imp fort...
Need to use up the points in order to go lower in the talent tree.. Using IMP PW:S seems less useful in a raid.. So does Martyrdom as if I were to be critted it would be game over for me anyway.... I guess I could put it on wand specialization LOL
5/5 on mental agility doesn't just mean less mana for PoM... Surely.. ALL instant cast spells..
-Renew
-Fade
-PW:S
-Inner fire
-PW:F
-DS
-Shadow Prot
and more..
will benefit from the reduction in mana...
Plus once again.. for this particular build points need to be spent...
So back to the question :P
2 points on IMP:DS or 5 points on Empowered Healing?
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Pukah
-1 of 2 fort = loose because your gimping the raid on HP's
-no points in mental agility makes no sense what-so-ever because of all the instant casts that priests have, especially if your CoH'ing spec'd
-having spirit but not having imp spirit is pointless also because not many classes benifit from +spirit as it only affects regen and if you have a SP/Shaman mana shouldnt be an issue, plus its a waste of points to get to it.
In my honest opinon
get imp spirit if you dont have one in raid already
get 5/5 empowered if you like monster 9k+ crits
mental agility is great!
once again I am just going with what worked for me and the people I raid with.
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Post by
Pukah
imp DS for kara since you want your locks/mages/SP's/Ele Shamans to get as much extra dmg as possible
I think the orignal question was about 25 mans.
Post by
EzenceII
-1 of 2 fort = loose because your gimping the raid on HP's
I beg to differ.. Surely 1 of 2 is better then 0 of 2.
Also.
-having spirit but not having imp spirit is pointless also because not many classes benifit from +spirit as it only affects regen and if you have a SP/Shaman mana shouldnt be an issue, plus its a waste of points to get to it.
I benefit from 50 spirit??
Around 1.39 spirit = 1mp5... so thats around 36 mp5 from 1 talent point... Is it really a waste? ><
mental agility is great!
Totally agree! ! :D
Currently for 25 man raids I am the only healing priest... Bare that in mind when recommending which spec.
Answers are good, and i'm feeling to move to IMP:DS as I generally raid heal cos paladins have so many heals to mana they can do a better job at keeping tanks topped up...
Thanks so far guys!
Post by
Pukah
Yes you benifit from the spirit, but if your going to drop that far down in disc why not get the imp DS so the whole raid will benifit from the points spent? Both in imp fort 2/2 (hehe) and the extra 10% to dmg and healing for everyone rather than just a basic regen... i know all my mages/locks/boomkins/ret pallies prefered the imp DS. I know you loose out on empowered healing but tell your guild leader to leave raid healing to the OP'd shammy chain heals lol.
I am sorry if it seems like I am telling you what to do, I do not intend for it to be that way, just trying to give you my point of view.
Also here is a chart from wowwiki on +spirt = +regen breakdown
+Spirit Regen idle (mp5) 30% Regen in combat (mp5)
+1 0.625 0.1875
+5 3.125 0.9375
+10 6.25 1.875
+15 9.375 2.8125
+20 12.50 3.75
+30 18.75 5.625
+40 25.00 7.5
+50 31.25 9.375
Okay if that is to hard to read (didnt transfer right) here is the link
http://www.wowwiki.com/Spirit
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Post by
EzenceII
Ah ha!
Thanks again for opinions...
Now the technicallities are out of the way.. From my understanding I have 1 of two options..
If I am the only priest I should concentrate and buffing the raid more so then having powerful healing..
But if I am in a raid with other holy/desc priests I should just go for the uber healing..
Now..
Which ones more fun? :P
Buffing the raid up - or healing like a god?
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Post by
EzenceII
I'm going to respec with imp:DS tonight for kara, its only 10 man but the guild has just gone through a bad patch and we're just getting back on our feet.
I'll let you know how I find it!
On another note...
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=5276&p=50276
- Let me know what you think...
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