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MoP- Death knights weaker now?
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964614
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Post by
Adamsm
No they aren't...but the best way to find out, is to come back and play yourself.
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251602
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Post by
Nicoderm13
Yea, they are very gear dependant now. I find my self peaking early and not being able to sustain the high damage over the course of the fight.
Post by
Tritoch
What spec are you guys playing?
I'm averaging a solid 45-50k on most heroic dungeon bosses as two-handed frost and don't feel weak at all.
Post by
Talaria
Blood, doing 180k-270k on trash in scholo and around 60k-70k on bosses in scholo last night. You can find my DK in my profile.
Post by
Interest
I find Death Knights to be pretty strong. I can't speak for DPS, though I hear they're doing well, but I know Blood is pulling some pretty insane numbers and aren't particularly frail (at least not at the level they were back during early Cataclysm).
Post by
Problimatic
I find Death Knights to be pretty strong. I can't speak for DPS, though I hear they're doing well, but I know Blood is pulling some pretty insane numbers and aren't particularly frail (at least not at the level they were back during early Cataclysm).
They are very strong right now. Highest single target dps of the tanks, extreme amounts of health from the improved blood presence, very good sustain. They aren't really hurting in the dps scene either. Our dk is usually at the top or just behind our warrior in dps right now with 4 bosses down in vaults. I heard from a friend they aren't so great in the pvp scene right now, though it might just be there are many imba specs like BM hunters as of now.
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119023
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Post by
Zakkhar
Lots of pvp flavour comes from customisation with talents and glyphs.
Offensive dispel, undispellable diseases, perma slow (undispellable as well due to diseases), mass death grip, ability to put absorb shield on your partner etc etc.
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331902
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Post by
sfagias
It really depends what aspect of the game you are looking at. If you are interested in PvE, I would say DKs are pretty strong, both as tank and DPSers.
Now, if you are interested in PvP, DKs are good in BGs and for some arena fun. However, If you take Arena seriosuly, and aim for rank 1 DKs are overshadowed by Warriors atm. The only comps DKs are doing well atm are TSG and PHDK, and that is purely because Warriors and Hunters carry the DK's weight.
Post by
damionknight
I've been playing dk's since Wrath and though they aren't as strong as the beginning of Cata I've been holding my own in Raids and lfr's. Just be sure to read tips from forums and such and you should be near top of the charts in dps in most fights. In PVP, I plan as blood cause it's high survial rank against melee classes. i usual team with a warrior or range and let them do the work while i take the damage XD.
Post by
SturmovikX
I have found no problems my current DK is tobiaz check him out on Bnets sight 85 sitting on 220k hp in bloodspec/pres is level locked for easy justice farming and can do the first 2 Panda dungeons it is now WAY WAY easier starting at 80 to supergear Dks I have full gear to 90 alot of greens but really nice ones few AH blues but in general I feel they scaled well into panda not as well as some classes but still seems to work great Unholy seems to be the explore/farm spec as it was in cata Frost is one of the highest dps spec/classes atm and blood tanks till 5.1 were almost unkillable in pvp they still offer a great variety and still one of the EASIEST classes to solorun old zones most "World first" SOlos in cata were dks and a few pandara firsts were dks :) still an AWESOME class
Post by
Tykzor
Correct me if I'm wrong but I occasionally read something like "scaled well, not as well as some classes" or something like that Paladins or warriors are better.
I'm not saying that this is wrong. I'm very happy that Paladins or Warriors are up to par or even better than DK's.
But, and here is the but, aren't DK's supposed to be a HERO class ? Meaning that they might be better than compared to other classes ?
A hero class is supposed to be better than a 'normal' class, right ? even it is a little bit better ?
Or is the hero class a myth and doesn't Blizzard support the HERO class anymore and is the DK just another class ?
It wasn't meant as sarcasm or being negative, I'm just honestly confused. I always thought that DK's are supposed to be a little better than other classes.
If they are better, then please forgive my ignorance about the DK class.
But by reading all the posts in this thread it seems that the DK is just as viable or as strong as other similar classes like Paladins or warriors.. or bear druid, etcetera.
Post by
Zakkhar
But, and here is the but, aren't DK's supposed to be a HERO class ? Meaning that they might be better than compared to other classes ?
A hero class is supposed to be better than a 'normal' class, right ? even it is a little bit better ?
Or is the hero class a myth and doesn't Blizzard support the HERO class anymore and is the DK just another class ?
Please dont start on that hero class idiocy. Dks have 55 less levels to grind and you start with a blue gear that is better than most of the stuff you can get through next 15 levels. They also get own weapon enchant, thats better than anything else available on the market and its free. If thats aint hero i dont know what is.
It wasn't meant as sarcasm or being negative, I'm just honestly confused. I always thought that DK's are supposed to be a little better than other classes.
What would be the point of other classes than? If DKs were a little better?
If they are better, then please forgive my ignorance about the DK class.
Paladins are atm extremly rng reliant (dps wise) much less than warriors or Dks.
But by reading all the posts in this thread it seems that the DK is just as viable or as strong as other similar classes like Paladins or warriors.. or bear druid, etcetera.
Are we talking tank or dps here?
Tanking it would be: Monk (as fotm ofc) > DK = Paladin > Feral > Warrior (
this site
does a little comparison, missing some important skills though)
DPS it would be: Warrior = DK > Ret
Post by
Tykzor
@ Zakkhar :
I won't quote your whole message, that would be a bit too much.
Anyway, yes I see your point. I should have chosen my words more carefully.
I honestly thought that DK class was/is a little bit better in dmg output or maybe tanking even.
I know I generalize a bit. I do appreciate your view on the matter and thanks for the good explanation.
It wasn't my intention to put anyone off or offend.
Thank you for the link to the site in the lower part of your comment.
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