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AngelKnight52
Hey folks,
I know Mist of Pandaria is right around the corner and there is still working going on but I was wondering what is the state of Death knights in terms of playability and stuff? I have been thinking of making one and trying to get one up before the patch comes in. Thanks, I'm just trying to become knowledgeable in the class and what to expect.
Happy Hunting!
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Adamsm
I feel like they should make frost the DW spec and unholy the 2h spec or both specs be able to use 2h and DW. Frost is still the dual wield spec and Unholy is still the 2hander one.
OP Panda Racials make me want to barf out money to race change.Pandarens can't be death knights.
I sometimes think redesigning the talent trees is a moot endeavor because them each talent would have to be completely situational or have an even dps output or survivability (insert proper word).That's...really the entire point of the new talents: You pick and choose when you want to use them since you can swap talents on the fly.
OP patch is in next Tuesday; I'd really just suggest waiting for it then make your DK then. You will enjoy yourself, as long as you like a melee class. As a first timer, I'd suggest starting with Blood spec, since that will give you a chance to get a feel for the class. After that, I can't personally recommend Frost spec since I really hate it, but I do know that Unholy can be a little intimidating for new players but I love that one heh. If you do try Unholy just remember to keep your diseases up, have your ghoul up all the time and use your Gargoyle often.
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Rankkor
I feel like we get the WORST talent tree.
I agree, pretty much all we get is either old stuff we had before, or extremely situational, or incredibly boring. When I look at trees like the one for pallys, priests, warlocks, and warriors, I can't help but cringe and the incredibly subpar tree Dks got. Specially the barbarity they did to the level 90 talents. The main reason for me to be excited about the talent trees died when they took away the damage from those skills (While providing the most BS excuse ever, if level 90 spells aren't meant to do damage, why do the talents for level 90 monks, paladins, priests, warriors, ect do allow for damage? why can they be the exception?)
OP Panda Racials make me want to barf out money to race change.
/shrug, I don't see them as that OP. And even if they were, no race in this world will make me play anything other than blood elf :P racial skills can't outshine fabulousness.
I was wondering what is the state of Death knights in terms of playability and stuff?
Functionally, the class is fine, its not underperforming, and its good at doing its job, however I am not happy about the current state of the class, simply because come MoP there is ZERO changes for DKs.
The whole point of an expansion is to get new toys, to get new tools, to get new abilities that go boom boom, and on this regard, Dks got the short end of the stick. Not only NOT ONE of our talents deals any damage (with the sole exception of death siphon and even then, it deals a rather poor damage) our two new skills aren't very good (Yay, a CC that can't be used in pvp, or raids, or 90% of the heroics, and an execute that has a 5 second delay rather than be instant, whoopity-bloody-do) and even the skill we get out of Symbiosis stinks (hurray, YET ANOTHER disease spreader, as if I didnt' had a billion of those already)
SO, bottom line, (IMO) our new talents are crap, our new skills are boring, and we didn't got anything new, or worthy or being excited about. Just about the only goodie that DKs got was the ghoul glyph, but nothing new, interesting or fun was added to our rotation.
Pre MoP if you are frost, you will be using obliterate, burning off RP with Frost strike, and use Howling Blast when Rime procs. If unholy, you will be using Fester strike when you have red/blue runes, SS when you have purple/green runes, D&D whenever its off cooldown, DC when you need to burn off RP or have a Sudden Doom proc, and Dark Transformation when you have 5 stacks of Shadow Infussion.
Post-MoP.......................... its the exact same thing. Except for the new execute, which again, I would had liked more if it didn't had a delay.
Post by
AngelKnight52
So it seems that Death knights are not getting much of anything interesting. Hmm this makes it tough because I was interested into the class because I wanted to see how MoP makes it viable and also because it's one of those classes I tend to make and never level past the starting zone and then delete. They should still be super viable dps and tanking right? or should I focus on playing another class instead?
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Post by
Adamsm
Unless you love Unholy, since I did enjoy my time on Beta in that spec.
It's really up to the person playing on what they want to be.
Post by
AngelKnight52
Adamsm since you have played Beta, what do you think is really the state of Dks?
Post by
Adamsm
That Blood are no longer the kings of solo tanking; they've dropped down to second place and Monks are going to replace them easily.
I don't touch frost, but I know quite a few people who had Frost off-specs go Unholy instead since Frost was underwhelming.
Unholy is still pretty much the same as it ever was.
All in all, there are some changes, but nothing truly 'game breaking' this time around. You'll see 85% of them on Tuesday when the patch drops.
If you are interested in the class, pick one up and give it a try; DK's aren't for everyone.
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Post by
Masse97
I think we going to have a hard time being a Death knight through out Mist of Pandaria Cause our new talents choses aren't really good, But i dont think death knight is going to be a class who is going to suck
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MetalGenocide
no race in this world will make me play anything other than blood elf :P racial skills can't outshine fabulousness.
Quoted for truth! Its fun being faaabulous.. just watch the hair ;)
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