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Valor of the Ancients Buff - MoP
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Post by
lankybrit
Hi,
Just posted over at mmo-champ.
This buff in MoP will give other toons you have (alts) a 50% buff to Valor gained, once you have a toon that caps 1000 for the week. They also have a max total limit of 3000 in MoP.
However, one thing on the tooltip for Valor is that it still says 'Used to purchase PVE Armor and Weapons'. Is that just something that didn't get updated yet, because I thought that Valor could only increase the stats on Armor and Weapons in MoP?
Cheers.
Post by
Adamsm
Valor is used to purchase items off the rep vendors.
Post by
lankybrit
Thanks.
Those ones they've previewed here that you can get when you're Revered, right? I didn't see it mentioned in the articles, but I might have missed it.
This Buff sounds great for those with multiple toons, but how easy will it be to get the first one capped at 1000? I've heard that valor is pretty hard to come by in MoP right now. Is that just a Beta thing though?
Cheers.
Post by
Adamsm
Yes it's from the revered vendors.
And no, it's not that hard to hit the 1000 valor cap a week; run Heroics, run the raids, do the Dailies(so far all of the dailies give 5 valor points so in a day that's 48 x 5 = 240).
It's only 'hard' now because the raids aren't open, the heroics are buggy as sin, and the free PVP gear out matches anything else currently in the game, so there isn't really a need to run them on the Beta.
Post by
Azrile
I believe you get the same amount of valor for a heroic as you do now. You get half that amount from doing a scenerio which has no queue and is a bit shorter and easier. You also get valor from doing daily quests.
It is not hard to cap vp on live now, it will be significantly easier in MoP just because of queue times for scenerios and heroics will be much faster.
Post by
Rankkor
Wait, I'm confused.
I thought they had said Valor was no longer used to buy gear, just to improve existing gear, so which one is it? improve gear? or buy gear?
Post by
Adamsm
Wait, I'm confused.
I thought they had said Valor was no longer used to buy gear, just to improve existing gear, so which one is it? improve gear? or buy gear?
Both Rank; since the Revered items are 'better' then what you get from the Heroic Dungeons, you'll want those first, then once you have them all, and are starting in on Raids, that's when you upgrade your gear.
I believe you get the same amount of valor for a heroic as you do now. You get half that amount from doing a scenerio which has no queue and is a bit shorter and easier. You also get valor from doing daily quests.
It is not hard to cap vp on live now, it will be significantly easier in MoP just because of queue times for scenerios and heroics will be much faster.
Last I saw on Beta, Scenarios and Heroics were giving 60 VP per run, but as the counter was broken, we'll have to wait and see what's happening in the actual Live version.
Post by
lankybrit
Here's what was posted over on the Beta feedback forums.
LFR 90
Heroics 30
Scenarios 0
Wow. Just Wow. If this stands, it will be a massive grind.
Cheers.
Post by
Adamsm
Here's what was posted over on the Beta feedback forums.
LFR 90
Heroics 30
Scenarios 0
Wow. Just Wow. If this stands, it will be a massive grind.
.....And one more time Lanky: 48 Daily Quests, at 5 VP a pop for doing them, gives you 240 a day till you hit the cap.....
Post by
lankybrit
Why would they make 6 dailies equivalent to one Heroic though? Doesn't that seem kind of off? And what's with Scenarios giving 0? Hopefully this will change a bit when it actually goes live.
Cheers.
Post by
Adamsm
Why would they make 6 dailies equivalent to one Heroic though? Doesn't that seem kind of off? And what's with Scenarios giving 0? Hopefully this will change a bit when it actually goes live.Because it could take that long to do a Heroic? And you'll want to do dailies anyways to get the rep you need, so they may as well make it profitable at the same time.
And since Scenarios are all of 15 minutes at the absolute longest, makes sense to not make them an incredibly viable way of grinding VP.
Post by
Rankkor
Why would they make 6 dailies equivalent to one Heroic though? Doesn't that seem kind of off? And what's with Scenarios giving 0? Hopefully this will change a bit when it actually goes live.Because it could take that long to do a Heroic? And you'll want to do dailies anyways to get the rep you need, so they may as well make it profitable at the same time.
And since Scenarios are all of 15 minutes at the absolute longest, makes sense to not make them an incredibly viable way of grinding VP.
which leads me to ask, if they don't give any VP, what DO they give? and more importantly, what's the motivation to keep doing them? they better give at the very least JP.
Post by
Adamsm
Yeah, it's 70 JP Rank.
Post by
Interest
Well it's certainly a good thing I live to do dailies. Still...
Here's what was posted over on the Beta feedback forums.
LFR 90
Heroics 30
Scenarios 0
Wow. Just Wow. If this stands, it will be a massive grind.
Cheers.
I hope those numbers aren't final. I mean I guess LFR will help cut it down a tad...but...
Post by
Pyreth
From what I read the LFR content for MoP will be in 5 parts. If you get 90 from each part that will cover almost half of your VP for the week. Doing the rest with either dailies or heroics would be easy enough.
LFR: 90x5 = 450
Dailies: 5 each upto a max of 240 a day.
Heroics: 30 each random.
You could potentially cap your VP in one day by doing all 5 parts of LFR, 44 dailies, and 11 heroics. Though that would make for a very long day.
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298296
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Post by
Adamsm
I hope those numbers aren't final. I mean I guess LFR will help cut it down a tad...but...
They aren't, since the updated post here on Wowhead shows Scenarios giving 70 JP.
Post by
lankybrit
From what I read the LFR content for MoP will be in 5 parts. If you get 90 from each part that will cover almost half of your VP for the week. Doing the rest with either dailies or heroics would be easy enough.
LFR: 90x5 = 450
Dailies: 5 each upto a max of 240 a day.
Heroics: 30 each random.
You could potentially cap your VP in one day by doing all 5 parts of LFR, 44 dailies, and 11 heroics. Though that would make for a very long day.
Yep. A very long day, versus doing 7 HoTs now that would take about 2-3 hrs. A massive change.
They clearly are moving in the direction of 'No welfare Epics anymore'.
Cheers.
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