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Alert us to missing screenshots in-game?
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Post by
DrCheis
I was thinking about how to address Wowhead entries without screenshots, beyond relying on the diligent 25 or so people who upload screenshots of everything.
What if the Wowhead Client actually could tell us which npcs, spells (an icon next to the spell in the combat log should work for that), and quests did not have associated screenshots? Many more of us would take screenshots if we didn't have to tab out of the game to check if there are any uploaded.
I don't think such a feature could work in real-time. Maybe if it checks Wowhead's "missing screenshots" page upon starting up the Wowhead client on your PC? I don't know how feasible it is, but it would be a sure way to get more screenshots on Wowhead!
Post by
SeriousBug
In my opinion, a better solution would be a "Wanted" feature on the website, uploading missing screenshots for high reputation rewards.
Also, to quickly fill up the new missing Pandaria screenshots, a "screenshot giveaway" could be done, giving users a chance to win rewards in exchange for Pandaria screenshots.
Post by
SquireKel
In my opinion, a better solution would be a "Wanted" feature on the website, uploading missing screenshots for high reputation rewards.
There already is this feature, accessed via "Tools - Utilities - Missing Screenshots" (
here
) with +10 site rep for each accepted screenshot.
Users can also filter database search results with the "Has Screenshots - No" option.
Post by
DrCheis
There already is this feature, accessed via "Tools - Utilities - Missing Screenshots" (
here
) with +10 site rep for each accepted screenshot.
Users can also filter database search results with the "Has Screenshots - No" option.
This was the feature I was referring to. If only Wowhead client could somehow draw date from this feature of the website, more people would make use of it. Clicking the link and seeing
Vicious Fireweave Bracers doesn't have a screenshot is one thing, but that requires going out and buying/crafting some for the same of the screenshot. If on the other hand you happen to craft some and your Wowhead addon tells you this item doesn't have a screenshot yet, your chances of taking that screenshot are much greater.
Post by
Izichial
Making the Wowhead client pull data from the website would likely require significant additional coding and definitely make the client significantly more cumbersome than it is now. At the very least you'd require a clientside list of every object that is currently missing a screenshot and a way to alert the user when you come across one which'd require even more coding. Looking at the amount of pages missing screenshots it's a rather large amount of work for very little return.
If you feel that Wowhead is missing too many screenshots and want to do something about it, start from the other end and look up what's missing screenshots via the methods SquireKel described, then go ingame and find those things.
Post by
rahael
There already is this feature, accessed via "Tools - Utilities - Missing Screenshots" (
here
) with +10 site rep for each accepted screenshot.
Users can also filter database search results with the "Has Screenshots - No" option.
as has been stated in previous feedback posts, that link through the tools/utilities menu is totally wrong. for example, it shows 10 NPCs are missing screenshots but if you search the database using the "Has Screenshots" flag, you see many more results than 10. i still have yet to hear from an admin or mod as to why that tool is so broken (and has been for a very, very long time).
Post by
Nulgar
as has been stated in previous feedback posts, that link through the tools/utilities menu is totally wrong. for example, it shows 10 NPCs are missing screenshots but if you search the database using the "Has Screenshots" flag, you see many more results than 10.So? Use that method instead. Kel may have linked the wrong page, but that doesn't mean you cannot get correct results at all.
Note though that the results of this search, slash the DB entry flag that is checked, is only updated with a website push by the admins, which sometimes are some weeks apart.
Post by
SquireKel
as has been stated in previous feedback posts, that link through the tools/utilities menu is totally wrong. for example, it shows 10 NPCs are missing screenshots but if you search the database using the "Has Screenshots" flag, you see many more results than 10.So? Use that method instead. Kel may have linked the wrong page, but that doesn't mean you cannot get correct results at all.
Note though that the results of this search, slash the DB entry flag that is checked, is only updated with a website push by the admins, which sometimes are some weeks apart.
I didn't link the wrong thing. The first suggestion I provided was to use the "Missing Screenshots" feature, which isn't perfect but is a quick-reference.
The second suggestion I made, which is more accurate but again not perfect, is to use the filters to set them to find items / objects / npcs / etc that do not yet have screenshots.
Either method works, depending on how focused you want to be on fleshing out the database with screenshots. Regardless of which you use, double-checking each page before taking a screenshot can save you from going after something that already has a screenshot (but because of the website pushes Nulgar refers to, still shows up as lacking a screenshot).
Post by
DrCheis
Making the Wowhead client pull data from the website would likely require significant additional coding and definitely make the client significantly more cumbersome than it is now. At the very least
you'd require a clientside list
of every object that is currently missing a screenshot and a way to alert the user when you come across one which'd require even more coding. Looking at the amount of pages missing screenshots it's a rather large amount of work for very little return.
Well everything that gets done will require a lot of coding. I'm just trying to make the case that this might be a worthwhile use of the time required to write the code. I don't think the size of the missing screenshots list should make this any more work though. If it's all automated, it shouldn't matter (in terms of manpower) if it's 20 or 2000 missing screenshots.
You are right about cumbersome though. Wowhead client has always been noteworthy for taking up very little screen real estate. In order to minimize this, I would suggest it take place as follows: The feature is off by default, and can be enabled through the same interface as the client's other features. When enabled, a small icon (a camera or maybe the Wowhead logo) appears next to the name of NPC flagged as lacking a screenhot, the name of any spell in the combat log lacking a screenshot, and in the tooltip of any item lacking a screenshot, excluding items that do not have a "use" or are can be equipped. I think this would be the least intrusive way to implement that feature.
The client side list, in my view, is actually why I think it could work. You couldn't get the addon to pull data from the website in real time, but you could get it to check a local database. That database could be updated every time the Wowhead uploader runs, assuming the source it draws its data from on the Wowhead server is also updated. If set up correctly and without bugs, there shouldn't be any additional work hours required to maintain the system. Of course, I'm not a programmer so I could be missing a key reason it couldn't be done as easily as I suggest.
Post by
Nulgar
I didn't link the wrong thing.I'm sorry, I absent-mindedly skimmed your post as it was quoted and referred to in the post I replied to - of course I absolutely agree with you :)
The feature is off by default, and can be enabled through the same interface as the client's other features.Why not move it to its own addon then? And why does it have to be done by the Wowhead team themselves? Someone else could code it, using data pulled from Wowhead.
The idea itself is interesting, but it doesn't have to be part of the Wowhead Client.
Post by
rahael
So? Use that method instead. Kel may have linked the wrong page, but that doesn't mean you cannot get correct results at all.
Note though that the results of this search, slash the DB entry flag that is checked, is only updated with a website push by the admins, which sometimes are some weeks apart.
the page that SquireKel linked is absolutely the one that a new or in-experienced user would first go to which would lead them to think that there is much less room for contribution than there really is. i guess my question is why isn't it a mirror of the "Has Screenshots=No" filter from the database, as i don't see it being particularly useful in its current incarnation. while having an in-game source of this information would be nice, i'd first really like to see the primary source on the website corrected.
Post by
DrCheis
The feature is off by default, and can be enabled through the same interface as the client's other features.Why not move it to its own addon then? And why does it have to be done by the Wowhead team themselves? Someone else could code it, using data pulled from Wowhead.
The idea itself is interesting, but it doesn't have to be part of the Wowhead Client.
I assumed it would have to be part of Wowhead because the webpage does not list every item/quest/etc on a single page, and that a program wouldn't be able to pull information from Wowhead's website in a timely manner, thus necessitating a database on the Wowhead server with the list of unscreenshotted items that could be quickly read and updated. Of course if a 3rd party addon/program could do this, I'd be all for it. It would certainly seem to be in Wowhead's interest to link to and advertise for such an addon if it can be done that way.
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