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Post by
Deadi
Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps
or
Experimental Specimen Slicer
Experimental Specimen Slicer
Experimental Specimen Slicer
or
Ataraxis, Cudgel of the Warmaster
Ataraxis, Cudgel of the Warmaster
Ataraxis, Cudgel of the Warmaster
Human racials prefer swords or mace.
Wowhead stat weights prefer axe slightly but don't calculate sword procs.
Primary stat favors axe or mace.
Green stats favor axe.
Item level favors sword.
Transmog favors sword (
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
).
Post by
Nooska
I think you lost a part of your post - the part which lets us participate ;-)
What is the question or topic up for discussion here?
Post by
Deadi
Picky picky. Which should I use to maximize raid boss dps?
Post by
581897
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Nooska
Slicer for consistent 75%-125% (off mean) dps, Gurthalak for varying (sometimes wildly) 50%-150% (off mean) dps
Post by
cersoze
Well, I have the RF version of Gurthalak and normal version of Experimental Specimen Slicer, and I can say that, between these two, ESS has a huge advantage over RF Gurth. I've checked some recounts on normal DS boss fights and had like 1~2 procs off from Gurth...not worth the loss of 1.78% crit, 1.71% mastery and 61 STR (using Bold Inferno Ruby). I don't know if normal or heroic Gurth have more chance to proc the tentacle, or if I had very very bad RNG, but i'll stick to ESS until a get a heroic version of it or normal Guth, to test the proc rate.
Post by
Deadi
Well, I have the RF version of Gurthalak and normal version of Experimental Specimen Slicer, and I can say that, between these two, ESS has a huge advantage over RF Gurth. I've checked some recounts on normal DS boss fights and had like 1~2 procs off from Gurth...not worth the loss of 1.78% crit, 1.71% mastery and 61 STR (using Bold Inferno Ruby). I don't know if normal or heroic Gurth have more chance to proc the tentacle, or if I had very very bad RNG, but i'll stick to ESS until a get a heroic version of it or normal Guth, to test the proc rate.
I was mostly referring to within the same tier, but you are definitely factual. I have normal of all 3. I think I have to go with Gurth... mostly because of the transmog :)
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/sargeras/Erder/simple
Post by
Ajhunter16
The weapon choice can sometimes also depend on the type of boss ur on or add cause ik on ultraxion the tentacles can't reach the boss unless ur group puts the gathering point close to him and if ur target is constanltly moving a good distance could cause it to be out of range.
Post by
blitz665
the tentacle can reach ultraxion. the tentacle shoots some kind of laser at whatever your attacking, so its a range attack. even if its not it still would reach it. I would choose ESS cause the damage would be steady and not static.
Post by
Nooska
the tentacle can reach ultraxion. the tentacle shoots some kind of laser at whatever your attacking, so its a range attack. even if its not it still would reach it. I would choose ESS cause the damage would be steady and not static.
While Gurth may have been fixed with 5.0.4, please do your research before stating that others are in error. The tentacle has indeed had a lot of problems reaching ultraxion, without it having anything to do with being ranged or not (in fact, if it was melee, the problem would not have been there in the first place)
Post by
crusaderlethelol
i have all versions of gurth,and also 397&410 of both ataraxis and slicer.RF gurth is not worth using.for ur situation,i would go with slicer.at hc level,its like this ; gurth>slicer>ataraxis.and as i said,i have all of the gurthalak and tried them on dummy with my ret for 5 mins each.here is the results ;
RF gurthalak done 4 % of my total dps
Normal Gurthalak done 5% of my total dps
HC Gurthalak done 12% of my total dps.
hc one is awesome for warriors,no need to mention.and also heard some stuff about hc gurth procs from DK guildies,they were all like "omg!i have 4 tentacles at the same time!".so probably that HC version has bigger proc chance on every class.so if u get hc gurth,do not think about anything else,it brings RNG to your class but still offers better dps.
Post by
Nooska
5 minute dummy tests are not valid as a reference point, too much sawy in the RNG - if you want to check it go autoattack a dummy for about 1500 autoattacks.
Post by
239153
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Post by
willc0de4food
Isnt Ataraxix better than slicer now? From what I have read haste is now our best stat as it decreases the cooldown of
all
of our Holy Power generators now, as well as increasing Art of War procs and seal damage. And also gives expertise for humans/dwarfs.
That is correct, haste is our most desirable secondary stat. Makes me wish I would've picked up an Ataraxis while we were still raiding :/ we had it drop, but no one wanted it. So as of patch 5.0.4, I would evaluate the weapons to be Gurth > Ataraxis > Slicer. Even though all three will likely be completely irrelevant in ~3 weeks ;]
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