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Adamsm
Comic ending was better.
Post by
MyTie
It is not morally acceptable to knowingly cause the death of one person, in order to save the lives of the entire world, even if that were to include that one person were to still die due to your inaction.
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Adamsm
It is not morally acceptable to knowingly cause the death of one person, in order to save the lives of the entire world, even if that were to include that one person were to still die due to your inaction.
Rorschach
thought so as well...Which is why Doc Manhattan killed him to keep from spilling the beans about the truth.
That's one of the reasons why I prefer the comic ending over the movie.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
It is not morally acceptable to knowingly cause the death of one person, in order to save the lives of the entire world, even if that were to include that one person were to still die due to your inaction.
Then how come you support the military? It seems to be contrary to the very core of your views about what is acceptable in regard to human life? I mean, I know that you said before that we can't protect ourselves without doing something "immoral," but it seems as if you saying that it's unacceptable to kill anyone to save any number of people, it shouldn't matter if it's the only way to protect yourself. From your point of view, I mean.
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Post by
Adamsm
Sorry Sold, but the comic ending is the better one, because it shows that even at the end and face to face with the most powerful being on the planet, Ror was not willing to bow down to the so called 'greater' good when it came to the truth.
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ElhonnaDS
Sorry Sold, but the comic ending is the better one, because it shows that even at the end and face to face with the most powerful being on the planet, Ror was not willing to bow down to the so called 'greater' good when it came to the truth.
Am I remembering the movie wrong? I remember him getting killed because he wouldn't keep it quiet in the movie too.
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588688
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Adamsm
Sorry Sold, but the comic ending is the better one, because it shows that even at the end and face to face with the most powerful being on the planet, Ror was not willing to bow down to the so called 'greater' good when it came to the truth.
Am I remembering the movie wrong? I remember him getting killed because he wouldn't keep it quiet in the movie too.
Thought in the movie he begged for the death since he wouldn't keep it quiet; Ror just walked away from John, telling him he would have to kill him to keep him quiet, with the same standard face/inflection he had used from the beginning of the story.
But you can't be judged for it since you had no choice, it's a do or die scenario.Sure you can; you can be judged for anything in this world, including committing mass murder to save the world....not to mention just how many monstrous things Ozy did to make his creature....
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ElhonnaDS
@ Adams- he definitely was emotional, but I was thinking that it was more in reaction to the overwhelming betrayal of the rest of the Watchmen to his principles, and that he was more upset that they would be willing to kill him to keep in quiet than asking them to kill him. The way he delivered the "You know you'll have to kill me," seemed sad, and betrayed- at least to me it did.
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Adamsm
/shrug Not how I saw it, but I love the comic one over the movie.
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588688
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Post by
ElhonnaDS
Don't bite, Adams- lol.
Post by
Adamsm
Don't bite, Adams- lol.
Wasn't planning on it: And to expand what I said up above, to me, the Comic Ror is the only one out of the entire group of Watchmen who actually has both his moral fibre and moral compass pointing the right way: He knows that you can dress it up however you want, for the good of mankind, to stop a war, whatever...but Ozy still pulled something just as bad as what he was trying to avert, and was completely fine with ruining the lives of his friends/allies.
Also, say what you will about the Comedian, but he too was a lot more realistic then any of the other characters but Ror and Ozy.
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588688
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Adamsm
I just bring up the old 'Evil done in the name of Good is still Evil'.
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Adamsm
I just bring up the old 'Evil done in the name of Good is still Evil'.
That's what I've been saying, just that you can't morally judge the person doing the action if they didn't have a choice.
Sorry but if the action is evil, yes you can judge it, since no good ever comes from evil.
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588688
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Adamsm
It's evil, I'm not any less good for being forced to do it, nor am I grey for doing it.
Okay, look at it this way Sold;
sure it was done for survival
, but the fact that they resorted to cannibalism is one of the reasons why people look back on this with horror. It doesn't matter at all that it was to save the lives of those who were starving, they still ate people, and that's just plain wrong.
So yes, nothing is black and white, but if you do evil, no matter how you dress it up, you are still just as evil as the act is, and that's not a 'moral' thing.
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