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Post by
Rankkor
You forgot one thing, Stasis has no travel time. That's also quite an advantage, since every goddamned thing is capable of dodging abilities that have travel time. It's so annoying.
and if you're also only packing a sniper, it has a really short reload time (2.7 seconds)
Overall: best skill in the game.
Post by
Thror
Overall: best skill in the game.
Hold your horses, Penny. Combat Drone. That thing has saved my life so many times. Esp. if you can cast two at once with Tali. Nothing better than diverting the attention of an Atlas or a turret and stuff. They can also kill quite efficiently.
Post by
Liquoid
Does anyone believe the Indoctrination theory? It sounds literally too good to be true.
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138638
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Post by
buzz3070
After reading it, it does sound plausible.
Post by
Liquoid
The list of evidence is piling up, the biggest give away is the fact that Shepard can only take the breath at the end (as he wakes up) if you choose the Destroy option. If your Shepard didn't wake up, then a) you didn't have enough war assets, b) you picked Control/Synthesis and got indoctrinated. Game Over, except due to nature of indoctrination you don't know that it's game over - you think it's all real.
Think of it like the Blue pill and Red pill in the Matrix - If you get indoctrinated, you keep believing what you believe.
If you fight it off, you get to wake up among the concrete rubble of London. You get to live to fight another day. This is the canon ending of ME3.
The scary thing is, the exact moment of the "choice" is groundbreaking. The whole scene went over your head. Play it again and pay attention to the layout of the room.
http://i.imgur.com/4JUlu.jpg
From the top, it looks like the bioware dialogue wheel. Think about it. The choice is not Shepard's, but yours. You are given 3 options. You, the player, are portraying Shepard's willpower with your choice.
Control - falsifyingly colored as Paragon. However, it's what The Illusive Man would've picked. You know for a fact that he's indoctrinated.
Synthesis - the "green" option, what Saren would've wanted. You know for a fact that Saren was also indoctrinated.
Destroy - falsifyingly colored as Renegade. It's what Anderson would've chosen to do. Destroying Reapers is what is needed to win.
Survival at all costs is what Shepard refers to right before Reapers invade Earth. If your Shepard (i.e. You) strays from that path, if he seeks power in the form of Control, or if he seeks an alternate way in the form of Synthesis, he will fail the indoctrination. Only if Shepard (and You) believes at the bottom of his/her/your heart that Reapers should be destroyed, will he survive the Indoctrination attempt.
tl;dr Anyone who thought the endings were "real" and really happened, lost the final boss fight.
Post by
Rankkor
but liquoid, there's a MASSIVE PLOT HOLE regarding the ending, a plot hole so big, it pretty much invalidates EVERYTHING in the first game. Its why so many believe it needs to be re-written.
At the end, you reach the Catalyst, who very clearly and unambiguously identifies itself as the leader of the reapers. "I control them, the reapers are my solution" were his exact words. And this AI has been living inside the citadel this whole time.
IF that was the case, then what was the point of leaving behind sovereign to monitor the state of galactic civilization? the leader was sitting right there at the core of civilization this entire time. Plus why exactly was sovereign required to link with the citadel to activate its mass portal to bring the reapers from dark space? if the leader was living there the whole time, it could had done so by itself.
The entire plot of ME1 was stopping sovereign and preventing the reapers from returning, but all this time we had their leader living right under our nose, and we're expected to believe that it chose to do nothing, when the very reason reaper cycles continue is because this thing WANTS THEM TO CONTINUE?
Logic Error 101
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I agree Rank- I was not happy with the endings. I loved the rest of the game, but the ending was just meh. I'm not going to be waging a battle over it, because the rest of the game was really, really, really good, but I was disappointed.
Post by
Skithus
The catalyst works in mysterious ways?
Post by
Rankkor
I agree Rank- I was not happy with the endings. I loved the rest of the game, but the ending was just meh. I'm not going to be waging a battle over it, because the rest of the game was really, really, really good, but I was disappointed.
yep, the game is pure gold, PURE SOLID GOLD, the endings...... remind me a bit of 2001:Space Odyssey.
The main reason I'm not raging like so many others at the BSN/youtube/internet in general is because I'm still waiting for official words by bioware (Since for now all they've said is cryptic stuff "wait and see"). They said they still had plans and that if we knew just what exactly they had planned, we'd hold onto our ME3 copies forever.
So, I'll wait to see what those plans are. I still have this mass gut feeling that its gonna be an expansion pack. Again, if they did one for Dragon Age (Awakenings) I don't see why they wouldn't do one for their most successful saga ever.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I think I may hold off on finishing my game until the DLC is announced- not choose any of the three major endings, in case the DLC makes one of them more attractive.
Yeah, that's it. That's my excuse for becoming hooked on Skyrim...
Post by
Adamsm
That's....kind of a cheat; though, to be fair, FF13-2 is doing the same, as it ends on one hell of weird twist to the ending and we've been told that the DLC will expand on the moments right after that.
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138638
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Post by
Liquoid
but liquoid, there's a MASSIVE PLOT HOLE regarding the ending, a plot hole so big, it pretty much invalidates EVERYTHING in the first game. Its why so many believe it needs to be re-written.
At the end, you reach the Catalyst, who very clearly and unambiguously identifies itself as the leader of the reapers. "I control them, the reapers are my solution" were his exact words. And this AI has been living inside the citadel this whole time.
IF that was the case, then what was the point of leaving behind sovereign to monitor the state of galactic civilization? the leader was sitting right there at the core of civilization this entire time. Plus why exactly was sovereign required to link with the citadel to activate its mass portal to bring the reapers from dark space? if the leader was living there the whole time, it could had done so by itself.
The entire plot of ME1 was stopping sovereign and preventing the reapers from returning, but all this time we had their leader living right under our nose, and we're expected to believe that it chose to do nothing, when the very reason reaper cycles continue is because this thing WANTS THEM TO CONTINUE?
Logic Error 101
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynYgr1rqEec&list=UUlCELfvFjb4ufKEU7Y_xXJA&index=5&feature=plcp
Everything that happens between the laser hitting Shepard on London near the beam and Shepard waking up among concrete rubble (London again) is a dream. It all happened inside Shepard's mind.
Not only there are plotholes to the choices that the starchild gives, the game actively tries to convey the process of indoctrination on you as a player. You are being tricked into picking Synthesis or Control (Perfect or Paragon) instead of picking Destroy (Renegade).
This builds up on the assumption that Shepard stayed on Earth in London during the whole ending cutscene, that none of that really happened.
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138638
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Post by
Liquoid
additional food for thought regarding the indoctrination theory
http://w11.zetaboards.com/Theorycraftng_HUB/topic/7688087/1/
Post by
Liquoid
There's also the child foreshadowing
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9946363/1#9946363
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138638
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Post by
Liquoid
HOLY %^&*
http://i.imgur.com/TywdI.png
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