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Overhaul
As ret, I have been having issues beating disc priests, if anyone has a solution to this, plz share.
On my prot pally i have issues beating rets, if anyone has a solution to this, plz share (Ironic pally that has a ret pally and a prot pally is asking how a prot pally can beat a ret pally, ik).
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
As ret, I have been having issues beating disc priests, if anyone has a solution to this, plz share.
As does everyone else in the world. Join the club.
Post by
blademeld
On my prot pally i have issues beating rets, if anyone has a solution to this, plz share (Ironic pally that has a ret pally and a prot pally is asking how a prot pally can beat a ret pally, ik).
Tank them.
Works every time for me ;)
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Squishalot
On my prot pally i have issues beating rets, if anyone has a solution to this, plz share (Ironic pally that has a ret pally and a prot pally is asking how a prot pally can beat a ret pally, ik).
Tank them.
Works every time for me ;)
This. With the changes to Ardent Defender, chances are, you have more than 80% extra effective health than he does. And he certainly doesn't do 80% more damage than you do, if you keep Holy Shield up and stun him regularly.
Then again, I glyph for Avenger's Shield for burst. Shield of Righteousness, Avenger's Shield, Hammer of Wrath, from 50% to zero in 5 seconds flat.
Post by
Overhaul
What do u mean tank them, they never run out of mana due to their judgements and keep healing themselves with FoL, so the fights never really end.
I have tried to wait after they break a stun with their hand of freedom on a stun from Seal of Judgement to lay down a stun with hammer of Justice and then after it ends use an avengers shield and then arcane torrent. I this don't have the dps to bring them down so the fights don't end.
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Squishalot
They can't Hand of Freedom out of two stuns in a row.
You shouldn't be taking very much damage if you have Holy Shield up at all times. You should be avoiding a lot of his attacks, mitigating about 75-80% of the damage that he does to you, and whatever's left is meh.
I was jumped on by a Ret paladin the other night when I was doing dailies - he attacked me on full health, while I was on about 20% (the a$$hole jumped me with Divine Storm then HoW'd me and proc'd Ardent Defender). 30% health vs 100% health, I nearly killed him before he finally took me down. Mostly because I didn't think to use Lay on Hands.
Back away from him and force him to come from the front at all times. Let him walk through your Consecration and make him eat through your Holy Shield. When he's on mid-health, burst him down - Prot burst is stronger than Ret burst now.
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blademeld
All melee classes should be treated as an elite mob imo.
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Quest
Bust him for 20k before he knows wtf happened.
wrks 4 me
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Post by
Overhaul
I never thought holy shield was good to use in PvP, thx for the insight. I guess I should add holy shield back into my PvP hot keys and this walk backwards while fighting to keep them in front of me.
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Synectics
I never thought holy shield was good to use in PvP, thx for the insight. I guess I should add holy shield back into my PvP hot keys and this walk backwards while fighting to keep them in front of me.
...you, uh... you
do
know what
Holy Shield
does, right?
POP QUIZ:
What type of attacker is a Retribution Paladin? ...yes, that's correct. They are MELEE.
What do tanks do in melee with their shield? ...yes, that's correct. They BLOCK MELEE ATTACKS.
And what does Holy Shield do again? ...go ahead, you can hover over the tooltip again. Get back to me when you have the answer, I'll be the guy /facepalm'ing in the corner.
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Synectics
Arcane Torrent when he's casting heals or whenever.
Not all of us are fabulous.
Reason I wear holy gear is for mana issues prot has.
Carrying decent water and drinking often is a better solution than sacrificing Strength. ;)
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Synectics
Only said arcane torrent cause he was a BE. Also I do have water, given a mage makes a table, means more water. Plus when you have to use most of your mana buffing yourself and you blow it all in a few seconds, not really worth it. You can judge wisdom and whatnot but it's not that great.
Plus I'd rather not sit in PvP, more of the type to kill and keep moving, grabbing flags, annoying people, tanking leaders in AV or in Isle of Conquest.
Yeah, I noticed OP was BE and figured that was why you mentioned it; I just can't pass up a good crack at pretty Blood Elves. XD
Having no Int pieces, your mana pool will be ~5k. With the best water, it takes about 3 seconds to fill it. I wouldn't call that "sitting," but rather more like a marathon runner snatching a tiny dixie cup as they go past.
If the fight is extended, Divine Plea should be enough to keep you going -- I've waited until getting to about 30% to pop it, and it keeps me from going OOM.
If a disc priest doesn't want to die, then it won't.
QFT.
Post by
MischievousLoki
I find if I'm fighting a very pvp-geared ret paladin the only way for me to beat him is seal of light + judgement of light. I get a lot more healing out of it than he does when I have 40k HP. Since you do much less damage to them than they to you, your best bet is to whittle them down.
Now, for your typical ret paladin you meet out in the world, it's going to be easy no matter what you do. But I recently ran into a Gladiator ret paladin, it was hard and fun (I barely lost, but I wasn't prepared for someone so pvp-geared either).
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Synectics
(I barely lost, but I wasn't prepared for someone so pvp-geared either).
So what you're saying is
you were not prepared?
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