Post by lonewarrior
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http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47502 damage is increased by attack power..cleave is not. Cleave suffers the defensive stance damage reduction that is not replaceable. 3/3 Improved Thunderclap increases damage by 30%. It also reduced rage cost.
The actual Rage cost of Cleave can be considered to be 20 Rage + the Rage that would otherwise have been generated by your next weapon swing.
Yes TC has a cool down..but don't make it sound like you can spam Cleave all the time..especially at the beginning..rage starve anyone!.
I look back over your previous remarks...
Recount..oh plleaseee..I'm not going to open another can of worms here in regard to Recount addon..suffice to say that people seriously need to stop using that addon unless you can read between the numbers and know how that addon actually records information.
I don't want to turn this into a flame thread..you have your method for success ..I have mine.
I don't spec and glyph for trash mobs...I spec and glyph for bosses.
The only viable alternative is to dual spec protection trees and have one for trash and one for bosses.
Still, if a person needs to use a Major glyph to hit an extra target to worry about handling trash then he doesn't belong in that instance. Peace out !
Post by Zakkhar
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http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47502 damage is increased by attack power..cleave is not. Cleave suffers the defensive stance damage reduction that is not replaceable. 3/3 Improved Thunderclap increases damage by 30%. It also reduced rage cost.
The actual Rage cost of Cleave can be considered to be 20 Rage + the Rage that would otherwise have been generated by your next weapon swing.
This is all true, but not relevant to my statement. I already said that average TC hit is lower than my Cleave hit. Only thing i calculated was actual TPS.
Yes TC has a cool down..but don't make it sound like you can spam Cleave all the time..especially at the beginning..rage starve anyone!.
Of course i can spam Cleave on 3+ mobs pull without any problems as long as i take hits of all 3. Ragestarve? Happens only if i loose threat in favour of any of the other tanks.
Why even talk about Cleave if rage is an issue? It was quite obvious its about the infinite rage situation. Nobody will use Cleave if he has problems getting infinite rage of 3 mobs.
I don't want to turn this into a flame thread..you have your method for success ..I have mine.
I don't spec and glyph for trash mobs...I spec and glyph for bosses.
The only viable alternative is to dual spec protection trees and have one for trash and one for bosses.
All true. What if someone almost never tanks bosses? The OP disaster was on thrash, not boss.
Still, if a person needs to use a Major glyph to hit an extra target to worry about handling trash then he doesn't belong in that instance. Peace out !
I havent said anywhere that glyphing for extra target is the only possible way to keep 3+ targets on yourself. It helps, it sometimes trivialise the encounter, you use it a lot anyway why not glyph it?
You suggest i should instead glyph abilities i dont use at all or I "may" use sometimes on bosses?