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The REAL Worgen Mount Should Be......
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Post by
Axyn80
Or perhaps it's cool with them just not having mounts. Cept for mount collectors (I am one, but i'm find with them not having a mount. Or at least a cooler one.)
Post by
Rankkor
right...... because a canine mount doesn't already exists.......
ohh wait, the orcs say hi.
=D
In before "I said mastiff not wolf", its the same thing, they are still classified as canines, you don't see other races having mounts of the same specie of another race. By that regard night elves have tigers as their mounts, is there a race that has a feline specie as mount? nope. Draenei have those Elleks that look like elephants, anyone else has a Pachyderm mount? nope
seriously, the only mount that makes sence for the gilneans is horses. When you are in the worgen starting zone, what mount is Genn riding? a mastiff? nope, a horse. What mount pulls those awesome stage coaches? mastiffs? nope, horses. What animals do lorna asks you to save from the ettins, mastiffs? nope, horses. Being humans, it only makes sence that they use horses as a method of transportation.
I'm not against horses as the worgen mount, not even against unarmored horses being the worgen mount, my only gripe with these "new" mounts is that they already exist in the game. If they had new textures over the same old model I wound't even bother to complain.
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Rankkor
right...... because a canine mount doesn't already exists.......
ohh wait, the orcs say hi.
=D
In before "I said mastiff not wolf", its the same thing, they are still classified as canines, you don't see other races having mounts of the same specie of another race. By that regard night elves have tigers as their mounts, is there a race that has a feline specie as mount? nope. Draenei have those Elleks that look like elephants, anyone else has a Pachyderm mount? nope
seriously, the only mount that makes sence for the gilneans is horses. When you are in the worgen starting zone, what mount is Genn riding? a mastiff? nope, a horse. What mount pulls those awesome stage coaches? mastiffs? nope, horses. What animals do lorna asks you to save from the ettins, mastiffs? nope, horses. Being humans, it only makes sence that they use horses as a method of transportation.
I'm not against horses as the worgen mount, not even against unarmored horses being the worgen mount, my only gripe with these "new" mounts is that they already exist in the game. If they had new textures over the same old model I wound't even bother to complain.
The first part of your argument doesn't reconcile with the second part. Horses
already are
another race's mount: Humans. The argument that Worgen used to be Humans is superficial. They
used to be
Humans, they aren't now. They should have something completely different.
they used to be? By all accounts their entire culture is still human, their traditions, clothing, naming, and behaviour is still very much human. They are worgens only in name and apereance, as they dont behave as the typical worgen should. Do not forget that the use of mounts is related to the CULTURE of a civilization, not their actual race. And the gilnean culture is still very much human in every regard. Forsakens stoped being humans when they became undead? nope, still human, dead and rotten, but human nonetheless, so they use horses (of course in their case they passed their curse to the horses as well, but I cant properly see worgens infecting their horses. What would you call that? horsegen? XD)
Horses are very deeply tied to all human nations, gilneas included, thus it makes sence that they use that. Besides, the faction that joined the alliance is called "Gilneas" not "worgens". Not every gilnean became infected you know? many gilneans are still human, what are they gonna ride? a man-pig?
as I said in my post, you see gilneans using horses everywhere in the worgen starting zone, from genn, to lorna, to gwen, to many others who ride on horse-back. Why reverse the status quo of the gilnean culture when they themselves havent reversed it?
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Post by
kodikun
right...... because a canine mount doesn't already exists.......
ohh wait, the orcs say hi.
=D
In before "I said mastiff not wolf", its the same thing, they are still classified as canines, you don't see other races having mounts of the same specie of another race. By that regard night elves have tigers as their mounts, is there a race that has a feline specie as mount? nope. Draenei have those Elleks that look like elephants, anyone else has a Pachyderm mount? nope
seriously, the only mount that makes sence for the gilneans is horses. When you are in the worgen starting zone, what mount is Genn riding? a mastiff? nope, a horse. What mount pulls those awesome stage coaches? mastiffs? nope, horses. What animals do lorna asks you to save from the ettins, mastiffs? nope, horses. Being humans, it only makes sence that they use horses as a method of transportation.
I'm not against horses as the worgen mount, not even against unarmored horses being the worgen mount, my only gripe with these "new" mounts is that they already exist in the game. If they had new textures over the same old model I wound't even bother to complain.
The first part of your argument doesn't reconcile with the second part. Horses
already are
another race's mount: Humans. The argument that Worgen used to be Humans is superficial. They
used to be
Humans, they aren't now. They should have something completely different.
they used to be? By all accounts their entire culture is still human, their traditions, clothing, naming, and behaviour is still very much human. They are worgens only in name and apereance, as they dont behave as the typical worgen should. Do not forget that the use of mounts is related to the CULTURE of a civilization, not their actual race. And the gilnean culture is still very much human in every regard. Forsakens stoped being humans when they became undead? nope, still human, dead and rotten, but human nonetheless, so they use horses (of course in their case they passed their curse to the horses as well, but I cant properly see worgens infecting their horses. What would you call that? horsegen? XD)
Horses are very deeply tied to all human nations, gilneas included, thus it makes sence that they use that. Besides, the faction that joined the alliance is called "Gilneas" not "worgens". Not every gilnean became infected you know? many gilneans are still human, what are they gonna ride? a man-pig?
as I said in my post, you see gilneans using horses everywhere in the worgen starting zone, from genn, to lorna, to gwen, to many others who ride on horse-back. Why reverse the status quo of the gilnean culture when they themselves havent reversed it?
How many humans do you know named Ripsnarl? or like to sniff the air to track someone's scent? and all of the "Gilneans" may not be Worgen, but all the "Gilnean" players are.
Also, the Goblins' faction is called the "Steamwheedle Cartel." you don't see people saying "Man, I sure do love my new steamwheedle cartel priest!" No, you see them saying the love their goblin priest.
EDIT: Also also, Undead have undead horse mounts, but by your logic, they're still regular Horses.
Post by
Rankkor
Again, your distinction is superficial. They
appear
to still be a human culture, but the devastation wreaked by the Breaking, the Worgen Curse, and the Forsaken Invasion have irreversibly changed who the Gilnean people are. And there is also the fact that ALL of the major figures from the Gilnean faction
are now Worgen
.
And non-Lore-wise: they are treated as a separate 'race' just like Dwarves and Night Elves. So they should have something approaching equal status. Bad enough they can't actually use their home city, and they started with the goofy 'Running Wild' instead of real mounts.
Short version: they aren't who they used to be anymore, they are something different and separate from other Humans.
Pretending otherwise just makes them into a Human sub-faction
.
they
ARE
a human subfaction, and BTW, there's still a lot of non-worgen gilneans out there, Gwen armstead, krennan and lorna are an example, as are most of the BG battlemasters.
Also what do you mean by "they appear" to still have a human culture? I've done their quests, read their quotes, done the (very VERY few) quest-hubs they got, and still behave like average humans. The only noticeable change i've seen is on the worgen druids, who do embrace their animal side, and almost reject their former human nature. But not all gilneans are druids, and the ones who arent druids still behave 100% like humans, without the significant traits that mark a worgen.
This is mostly blizzard's fault. Making the story be that not everyone was infected was a big mistake, it would had been much better to tailor the story as every single gilnean becoming a worgen, so that there woudn't be a separation within them. The second mistake made by blizzard was give the worgens the draenei-treatment. That is to say, they almost vanish from the face of azeroth once their zone is completed. You can count with 1 hand how many gilnean towns exist out of their starting zone. This is bad enough, but you can also count with 1 hand how many alliance-worgens exist in all of the cataclysm zones.
Post by
Atik
This is all lies.
Worgens should ride people.
Post by
kodikun
This is all lies.
Worgens should ride people.
For the record, I support this idea 100%
Post by
Interest
This is all lies.
Worgens should ride people.
For the record, I support this idea 100%
I also support this. Either that or Worgen can ride other Worgen.
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658641
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Post by
ZoraLink
This is all lies.
Worgens should ride people.
For the record, I support this idea 100%
I also support this. Either that or Worgen can ride other Worgen.
Running wild just got a whole new meaning...
Post by
Atik
This is all lies.
Worgens should ride people.
For the record, I support this idea 100%
I also support this. Either that or Worgen can ride other Worgen.
Only if I can ride Nightbane...
Post by
Arikan
Also, the Goblins' faction is called the "Steamwheedle Cartel." you don't see people saying "Man, I sure do love my new steamwheedle cartel priest!" No, you see them saying the love their goblin priest.
As a side note, the playable Goblin faction is the Bilgewater Cartel, not the Steamwheedle. The Steamwheedles are the neutral faction which run Ratchet, Gadgetzan, Booty Bay, etc.
For the general X race has Y mount so another faction can't have a similar mount... that argument doesn't really work. Though rare, it is possible for a Horde player to have a cat mount, an Alliance player have a raptor mount or skeletal horse mount, not to mention the huge number of mounts available to both factions (Humans and Orcs can ride their talbuks side-by-side, hand-holding is optional). "anyone else have a pachyderm mount? nope." Yup. Anyone with enough gold can buy a mammoth.
OT I support giant armored mastiffs, worgen riding other worgen, or worgen riding on giant spiders. I want a spider mount.
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