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Post by
Adamsm
Get help. You are mentally unstable man. Not even kidding.
Yeah, just a little bit....
Post by
gnomerdon
Get help. You are mentally unstable man. Not even kidding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mm6deyLfCc
I personally feel it is insane to call someone else mentally unstable when everyone is their own unique entity. If you want people to follow a set of guidelines and call them mentally unstable for not fulfilling them, you might as well be considered like Hitler, minus the killings..
What I consider insane is a person living within someone else's expectations. I would go on a killing spree if this ever happened to me. Of course, it would have to depend on the degree of the expectation to be considered a threat to them or not.
Post by
mmorpgaddict
I find it so silly the amount of energy is wasted even differentiating people based on their sexuality. But then, I guess we're not so evolved after all. If it's not race, nationality, sexual orientation, humans will find some other reason to divide and discrimate against each other.
Post by
asakawa
mmorpgaddict just made an on-topic post. I hoped that this would guide the discussion back on track from the massive derail that has happened but I just had to delete two posts that continued off-topic comments.
If anyone has anything to say about the topic then please do so but I do not want to see any further derailing. It would be a shame to lock the thread down after so many pages of good conversation.
Post by
Murrdurr
You should just go ahead and delete the last 10 or so pages if youre worried about the topic getting derailed then, this has had nothing to do with Homosexuality and .(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##I've just asked for further posts to be on-topic. If you can't do that then you should refrain from posting.
Also, do not call out other users. If you see someone breaking forum rules then report those posts. Otherwise, again, refrain from posting.
Post by
Asylu
The thing about the argument against homosexuality and gay marriage is that ultimately it has no effect on non-gays. How is two guys getting married effect on anyone else's quality of life? I mean there are straight couples that I fell should never get married but I still respect their right to make a bad choice and be miserable, why can't a pair of lesbians do the same?
I hate to make this comparison but just because I think that no one should wear neon colors as a fashion statement doesn't give me the right to ban clothes in that color from being sold. It's not my choice, it's not my body and I have no right to infringe on others right to happiness.
Post by
xaratherus
I find it so silly the amount of energy is wasted even differentiating people based on their sexuality. But then, I guess we're not so evolved after all. If it's not race, nationality, sexual orientation, humans will find some other reason to divide and discrimate against each other.
Heck, we're not even evolved beyond race yet.
Several months ago (in 2011), a firm in Mississippi performed a poll of registered Republicans in the state. 46% of the respondents stated they would reinstate marital anti-miscegenation laws if given the chance - i.e., they would vote to bar interracial marriage in the state.
In other words, if our country had relied a public vote to repeal the laws that barred interracial couples from marrying, then at least one state would have had a near-majority voting to keep the unequal state.
Slavery was abolished in the country in 1865; it took 102 years before interracial marriage was legalized nationwide (1967), and that
only
occurred because of judicial rule. We might expect quicker action in relation to homosexual marriage equality, but based on attitudes in this thread, I think it's safe to say that legalizing it through popular vote isn't going to be how it occurs.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I have so much trouble understanding how people who have a seemingly firm grasp on logic in most other situations, seem to veer out into outer space with views that are racist, homophobic, or otherwise discriminatory.
People who preach loving each other as a commandment of God, but who will pull their daughter aside and ask what she's thinking bringing a black man home.
People who fight for as minimal government interference in their lives as possible- these people who want no limits on right to bear arms, the right to pray in school, no government interference in business practices, no government constraints on pollution, no government interference through social services and welfare. Yet they'll often be the same people who want gay marriage to be illegal, censorship on pornography and art that they find offensive, and music they don't agree with.
The same people who would defend to the death the rights of hate groups they don't like to march under free speech will complain how disgusted they are about a gay pride parade.
The same people who minister to murderers and rapists in prison and try to save their souls, will refuse to have strippers send their children to Sunday School.
People who would raise H*** over anyone who would even mention that their religious bumper stickers were disagreeable to them, defending their right to practice their religion, are signing petitions to keep mosques out of certain communities and make people remove religious headgear.
It's just kind of funny how people don't connect the dots between what they demand for themselves, and whether they have the right to withold that from others. Apparently it's "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, unless you don't like that they're doing, and then F*** 'em."
Post by
91278
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
xaratherus
Discrimination isn't an evolutionary thing, as such. It's a cultural thing. cf
Reginald D Hunter
.
Fun fact: It only became illegal to own a slave in Britain in April 2010 -- because being a slave wasn't recognised as a state of being. Which I thought was rather awesome, really.
In regards to evolution: Yeah, it's not really the appropriate term. I was just using the same wording in the message to which I was responding.
As for the slavery thing: 0.o. Holy crap,
that's
insane. I had no idea that was true. That's sort of a, uh, big loophole there.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
@ Sinespe
I am operating under the better safe than sorry rule in terms of the language I use :)
Post by
xaratherus
@ Sinespe
I am operating under the better safe than sorry rule in terms of the language I use :)
Yeah, I was going to post a follow-up to Sinespe's note about the status of slavery in Great Britain (pointing out a silly law that still is on the books where I live in Arizona), but since it relates to, ahem, items of an adult nature, I thought I'd skip it.
Post by
91278
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Sweetscot
@ Sinespe
I am operating under the better safe than sorry rule in terms of the language I use :)
Yeah, I was going to post a follow-up to Sinespe's note about the status of slavery in Great Britain (pointing out a silly law that still is on the books where I live in Arizona), but since it relates to, ahem, items of an adult nature, I thought I'd skip it.
Not just arizona, there are laws against many "adult" interactions that I'm pretty sure would not hold up anymore..but they are still on the books. Me and the hubs break those laws all the time....
Post by
Atik
@ Sinespe
I am operating under the better safe than sorry rule in terms of the language I use :)
Yeah, I was going to post a follow-up to Sinespe's note about the status of slavery in Great Britain (pointing out a silly law that still is on the books where I live in Arizona), but since it relates to, ahem, items of an adult nature, I thought I'd skip it.
Not just arizona, there are laws against many "adult" interactions that I'm pretty sure would not hold up anymore..but they are still on the books. Me and the hubs break those laws all the time....
You mean like the one about anal sex that still exsists in a lot of cities?
Because a guy I know ended up breaking up with a girl who sued him and WON because they had anal sex, which was illigal in the city.
So much for them not holding up...
Post by
xaratherus
@ Sinespe
I am operating under the better safe than sorry rule in terms of the language I use :)
Yeah, I was going to post a follow-up to Sinespe's note about the status of slavery in Great Britain (pointing out a silly law that still is on the books where I live in Arizona), but since it relates to, ahem, items of an adult nature, I thought I'd skip it.
Not just arizona, there are laws against many "adult" interactions that I'm pretty sure would not hold up anymore..but they are still on the books. Me and the hubs break those laws all the time....
You mean like the one about anal sex that still exsists in a lot of cities?
Because a guy I know ended up breaking up with a girl who sued him and WON because they had anal sex, which was illigal in the city.
So much for them not holding up...
This actually had very little to do with the actual act of sex. Arizona has a law that makes it illegal to have more than two artificial phalluses (read: dildos, which I'm sure won't get past the censor filter) in a house. You don't even have to be using them - they just have to be there.
Now I want to become a vigilante named "The Three-Headed Bandit"; I'd go around breaking into the houses of ne'er-do-wells and planting a trifecta of sex toys, then call in the police to arrest them.
Post by
134377
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Post by
xaratherus
That's the most amusing law I've heard of for a while! Apart from usual bedroom items, we have some "Priapus" sculptures from Italy, some erotically themed pipes from South America, a Síle na Gig, and even some penis shaped ice cubes in the freezer left over from a hen night. I expect we'd have to serve a prison sentence for appalling behaviour like that! Is this law ever actually enforced?
I'm not aware that it has been. I've tried to find specifics on it, but the most I could find was that it was put on the books back in the 60s and just never removed.
It's tough to find anything specific on the law; I'd count it off as an urban myth but I've found a few fairly reputable sites that list it as real.
As an aside, I'm surprised that word got by the filter. As another aside, my household would be considered to break this law. :P
Post by
Jubilee
That's the most amusing law I've heard of for a while! Apart from usual bedroom items, we have some "Priapus" sculptures from Italy, some erotically themed pipes from South America, a Síle na Gig, and even some penis shaped ice cubes in the freezer left over from a hen night. I expect we'd have to serve a prison sentence for appalling behaviour like that! Is this law ever actually enforced?
I'm not aware that it has been. I've tried to find specifics on it, but the most I could find was that it was put on the books back in the 60s and just never removed.
It's tough to find anything specific on the law; I'd count it off as an urban myth but I've found a few fairly reputable sites that list it as real.
As an aside, I'm surprised that word got by the filter. As another aside, my household would be considered to break this law. :P
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/9/43/B/43.23
subpoint (f), and dildos are specifically named 2 pages before that, it's 6 or more that is illegal and in Texas, I found somewhat similar legislation in Alabama, but nothing in Arizona.
Post by
xaratherus
That's the most amusing law I've heard of for a while! Apart from usual bedroom items, we have some "Priapus" sculptures from Italy, some erotically themed pipes from South America, a Síle na Gig, and even some penis shaped ice cubes in the freezer left over from a hen night. I expect we'd have to serve a prison sentence for appalling behaviour like that! Is this law ever actually enforced?
I'm not aware that it has been. I've tried to find specifics on it, but the most I could find was that it was put on the books back in the 60s and just never removed.
It's tough to find anything specific on the law; I'd count it off as an urban myth but I've found a few fairly reputable sites that list it as real.
As an aside, I'm surprised that word got by the filter. As another aside, my household would be considered to break this law. :P
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/9/43/B/43.23
subpoint (f), and dildos are specifically named 2 pages before that, it's 6 or more that is illegal and in Texas, I found somewhat similar legislation in Alabama, but nothing in Arizona.
Yeah, I tried searching the official Arizona legislature site, which is supposed to have listed all active Arizona statutes, and nothing there.
Based on that I assume it predates the migration of the law "codices" to an electronic medium, and since it's not enforced they didn't bother to port it over. Or it really is an urban myth, but if so then it's regularly stuck in the middle of a number of laws that
do
really exist in Arizona (like a massive fine or jail time for harming a cactus, or a prohibition on hunting camels).
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