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Adamsm
It's only a hundred or so issues at this point Skree; might as well pick them up and read them, same as you used to do for the Warcraft comics.I did not buy those... :P
I know you didn't =P; do you think I obtain physical copies every month of the Walking Dead?
Post by
Skreeran
It's only a hundred or so issues at this point Skree; might as well pick them up and read them, same as you used to do for the Warcraft comics.I did not buy those... :P
I know you didn't =P; do you think I obtain physical copies every month of the Walking Dead?Heh, well, maybe once I clear my schedule. Still need to get caught up on Game of Thrones, get through Breaking Bad, and finish the Ender's Game books.
Post by
Gone
It's only a hundred or so issues at this point Skree; might as well pick them up and read them, same as you used to do for the Warcraft comics.I did not buy those... :P
I know you didn't =P; do you think I obtain physical copies every month of the Walking Dead?Heh, well, maybe once I clear my schedule. Still need to get caught up on Game of Thrones, get through Breaking Bad, and finish the Ender's Game books.
5 more days till GOT starts up again.
You started Breaking Bad? What do you think?
Post by
Skreeran
I only saw the first two episodes before my brother got waaaay ahead of me, and it's not as fun watching it alone.
Post by
Gone
A buddy of mine did that when we watched Dexter, then spoiled half the series by telling me what happened.
Post by
Gone
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/undeniable-proof-that-the-walking-dead-and-toy-story-have-th
Post by
Gone
Mr. Governor, you a bad, baaaad man that we will hopefully be seeing more of next season
Also wtf is wrong with Andrea, having a long emotional conversation with Milton instead of just focusing on the task at hand. Freaking Darwinism in action...
Carl's sociopath transformation is being handled kind of poorly.
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240140
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Post by
Patty
I just caught up and now I'm crying all over the place. Andrea my baby :(
MY LOVE MY DARLING </3
I mean, Chels and I have both criticized the writing of her, but the ending was just... so bad. I didn't realise until I read the spoilers how much I'd miss her in the show. Her actress was great in the role, it's just that the writers really made the role suck. I understand the need for shocking deaths, but right after Merle this felt gratuitous and drawn out.
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240140
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Post by
Patty
I just caught up and now I'm crying all over the place. Andrea my baby :(
MY LOVE MY DARLING </3
I mean, Chels and I have both criticized the writing of her, but the ending was just... so bad. I understand the need for shocking deaths, but right after Merle this felt gratuitous and drawn out.
Well they made her a different character but the one she was instead was a lot easier to connect to emotionally! I think that made it hurt more.
I know, but she did make some bad calls (like with Shane, for example). I mean, now her personality all makes sense and it's too late! :( Maybe if we'd shown some love earlier (the fandom as a whole), she'd still be in the show.
Post by
Gone
You guys really miss her that much? Damn now I feel like a heartless douch, but I couldnt STAND her in the show. I feel like they just took the most brilliant comic book character and turned her into this really bland character who just makes pathologically bad calls.
I mean even in the end. She should have stopped the long emotional talk with Milton, and just focused on getting the pliers, and she might have survived...
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240140
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Post by
Gone
Comic Andrea had personality, just a different type. Her ending speech was sad, and touching, but it didn't really make up for the way her character was written up till now, for me at least. Leaving Hershel's suicidal daughter alone, schtooping Shane and the Governor, always griping about wanting to be in the action, the being useless when people finally put her in, generally just perpetuating a negative stereotype of the useless "token action chick". I just have a hard time getting behind the character when I was already familiar with the superior version.
And yeah, I wanted her to hurry, but her only close friend at that time was dying, at a time like that I'd probably not care much about pliers either. And she didn't really talk for THAT long.
It took the whole episode :/
It was just frustrating that she dies from that, because it was so
stupid
. I mean she knew he was gonna come back and try to eat her, he's hanging on the ledge, and she decides to pause and unload on the dying guy. Cmon girl, at least multitask...
Post by
Gone
Finally caught up on the comics. This upcoming battle has me pumped, but I will be pissed if the tiger dies.
Post by
Sagramor
"For the concept of the zombie, we can thank two parties: ants, and a dog who probably died more than ten thousand years ago. Let us start with the dog.
First, you must imagine humanity as it would have existed at the time. Agriculture is a new concept, a radical practice that must have seemed like magic. Settlements are becoming larger. Humans everywhere are struggling with the transition from living in sparse, nomadic tribes hunting gazelle and gathering berries in the woods, to everyday life in close proximity to dozens of strangers in something that could be called a village.
All of this would have been a startling and hugely stressful change for our ancient ancestors. Yes, on one hand there is suddenly more food and comfort and spare time than the species had ever known. But maddening complexity arises at every turn. Language explodes. Man evolves the ability to think in words, essentially creating an entirely new schematic for his brain with which he will create abstract thought for the first time. And along with it, questions. Man needs to understand his place in the universe, and his relation to his creator. But this is not the beginning of science. It is the birth of superstition. What he does not understand, he fills in with this new-found cognitive power. The universe that this man inhabits will be one born from the astonishing new power called 'imagination.'
Already at this point, superstitions about the dead would have arisen; decaying flesh is a playground for infectious disease and bacteria - man would have long realized that too much time spent in the presence of the dead means sickness and even death for one's self. They find burying or burning the dead in a special place, away from the rest of the tribe, prevents this.
So one day, some nameless and now long-forgotten man dies. He is buried in a shallow grave by his friends, as is now their custom. But along comes a dog, or a wolf, which smells under the loose soil the irresistible scent of slightly putrid meat. The dog digs and finds a hand. It pulls it up from the soil with it's jaws, but then becomes distracted in its task and runs away.
Along come the deceased man's friends once more, and what do they find? A pale, dead hand, pushing up through the soil, as if clawing for the sky. Their friend, though still clearly dead, attempts to escape from his grave and walk! And thus, the undead enter our cultural memory once and for all. That image, of the pale, decaying hand emerging from the grave, can still be found on endless movie posters and horror novels. From that primal fear would develop the mythology of the zombie and the vampire and countless other incarnations across time and cultures.
But why does this haunt us so profoundly? After all, a shambling, decaying man should present less of a physical danger than a quick, strong, able-bodied man who wishes us the same harm. If anything, such a man would be easier to outrun, outwit and eventually put down. Why would mankind spend a hundred centuries obsessing over such an easily vanquished opponent?
For the answer, we must look to the ant.
As I alluded to, even before civilization began to emerge, agriculture must have seemed to early humans an inconceivably brazen attempt at playing God. Why, to refuse the nuts, berries and game that were naturally placed before you by providence and to instead
plant and grow your own
? It would be the ancient equivalent of some mad scientist today promising to grow a child in a vat. This bittier divide among early man finds its way into our mythology with the story of Adam and Eve -- the decision to abandon the self-sustaining garden in favor of food that only grows reluctantly from the ground by 'the sweat of thy face.' But this kind of audacious assault on nature - an act not observed in any other of the world's creatures - required man to accept (or believe, if you prefer) that he was unique. Blessed. Divine. The planet is there for the taking and he must believe that he is destined to subdue it.
Thus mankind embraces his identity as an eternal creation, a being above and beyond the physical. A being capable of choice, where all of the other beasts and fishes function according only to the simple arithmetic of crude instinct.A bear's actions can be boiled down to hunger, or fear. But a man is capable of
decision
, because he has this indefinable but all-powerful spark. This is what makes him man.
But then man observes the ant.
Clearly no individual ant possesses this same spark. No ant ever created a work of art, or felt love, or loyalty. No ant ever thought through a decision - ant mindlessly follow pheromone trails, to the point that if the leader forms a circle, the colony will follow it around and around, endlessly, until all have died from exhaustion.
Yet
, they create vast colonies, with separate chambers for the hatching of eggs and waste and storage. They grow and harvest fungi for food. The tunnels are designed with ventilation to the surface to carefully regulate temperature and air quality. A human would need years of formal study to learn all of the various principles and skills required to build a structure as complex as those created by the 'mindless' ants.
So what, then, makes humans so special? Of what good is this explosive wonder we call imagination , or the internal monologue we call our 'mind' or 'personality'? Of what value is the divine 'spark' that we believe grants us dominion over all, including those ants? All of our greatest achievements can apparently be duplicated without it.
That is why we fear the zombie. The zombie looks like a man, walks like a man, eats and otherwise functions fully, yet is devoid of the spark. It represents the nagging doubt that lays deep in the heart of even the most zealous believers:
behind all of your pretty songs and stained glass, this is what you really are. Shambling meat
. Our true fear of the zombie was never that its bite would turn us into one of them. Our fear is that we are already zombies."
Taken from: WONG, David.
This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It.
St. Martin's Press, 2012. pp 125-127. Edited to prevent wall of text as much as I could.
Post by
Sagramor
I know it's a long read for a WoW forum, but it's definitely worth it.
Post by
Nathanyal
In case of zombies
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Post by
Sagramor
Zombies have long been saturated.
World War Z
is a mediocre book.
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