3.3.3 Ptr Lock Changes

Post by Coralanth

I guess this is a good spot to discuss 3.3.3 changes.

http://www.wowhead.com/?patchnotes=3.3.3-ptr#warlocks

Immolate: The damage-over-time component of this spell can now produce critical strikes.
Life Tap: This spell no longer scales with spirit, and instead scales with spell power.
Talents

Demonology

Demonic Pact: This effect now has a 45-second duration, up from 12 seconds, and a 20-second internal cooldown.

Post by Coralanth

So with the LT change, the only reason for spirit is GoLT. Still worth it?

Post by MegamanX400

Glad to see the change on Life Tap since most ICC gear lacks spirit.
I wonder how that will affect GoLT? Or perhaps that will remain unchanged.

That will probably help with Demonology's mana issues since SP values tend to be higher in Demo than any other spec, so we should be getting more mana back.

So with the LT change, the only reason for spirit is GoLT. Still worth it?

It would be nice to not have to use this glyph anymore, given the lack of spirit these days. Perhaps there will be other glyph choices that will be better, like Corruption for affliction, or CoA. More Shadowbolts or longer CoA might be better?

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Post by MegamanX400

I don't understand the point of the DP change. It's gone from having a 100% uptime to... a 100% uptime?
Unless their goal was less server/client load, the change seems to do little.

Edit: I guess I was secretly hoping for a DP nerf, being an elemental shaman. :)

I think the change was more so for heavy movement fights, allowing the buff to stay longer and not have such a small window for the FG to crit again after the boss moved

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Post by gNINJA

Life Tap: This spell no longer scales with spirit, and instead scales with spell power.

Awesome. My guess is that they'll eventually change the glyph to scale with Intellect or Spell Power to be in line with their Cataclysm plan of making Spirit a stat that only healers need.

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Post by gNINJA

I didn't say anything about it being 20%, but they did say they were going to change all of the DPS caster abilities that now have some kind of scaling with Spirit (i.e. Fel Armor, Molten Armor, etc.) to not require Spirit anymore. They'd scale down the percentage so the bonus doesn't change much from what it currently is or what they want it to be.

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Post by jamayk

Yup droood, we still have/need Fel Armor.

Also let's say Killo100:

Making GoLT scale with spellpower would be kindve dumb, giving more SP based on SP? seems strange to me, especially since 20% of my spellpower is alot more than 20% of my spirit.

Do you all realize this is impossible. We can't get a 800 SP buff from 20% SP :))

So they didn't say anything about GolT. Also they didn't say anything about Fel Armor; spirit will still be there for us.

If now Life tap means: "Converts health into mana. Spirit increases quantity of health converted." There will be SP in formula, instead of Spirit. That's all.

So until now, this is the way I see PTR:

- crit on immolate... which is some dps increase, especially on destro.
- demonic pact change, which will allow us to go 2 points on Suppresion or Aftermath or even Cataclysm. Little buff.
- the scaling of LT with SP will give us less Life Taps... so a few GCD saved ;)

Post by Kangi

Let's consolidate discussion to here, shall we?

3.3.3 Ptr Lock Changes

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