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Post by
Soranthalas
First thing, defense doesn't have a real "cap". The term is misused here. 535 def (540 for raids) is the minimum you need to prevent crits. More defense still gives you avoidance and block.
The shard certainly has more avoidance (from def and dodge) beacuse the choker has absolutely none.
In general, if you see a piece with crit/haste, its a dps piece and you shouldn't have it equipped in tank mode. If you really overgeared heroic content, you could argue for using a little dps gear so that you take more damage and get more mana regen through SA, but you're not there yet.
The choker would be more TPS, but the same would be true for any DPS piece. I really wouldn't consider a piece of armor that doesn't have def/dodge/parry on it for tanking with (except for stamina trinkets); if you die because you aren't avoiding/blocking enough damage, your threat doesn't matter much. If your threat is a problem, its much more likely that your spec or rotation is the reason for it.
And speaking of spec, you spent 5 points in ret, but not the 6th to get one point in Imp Judgements. This would drop the cooldown to 9 seconds, which makes it fit better into the 969 rotation. I'd really suggest making some spec changes if you are concerned about threat.
Post by
Quest
Indeed, it would serve you much better by taking a couple hours to study the stickies and guides within them than it would to worry about gearing. Knowing what gear is better will come naturally with it anyway. If youre not tanking correctly, your gear is the least of what is holding you back.
Post by
Squishalot
And speaking of spec, you spent 5 points in ret, but not the 6th to get one point in Imp Judgements. This would drop the cooldown to 9 seconds, which makes it fit better into the 969 rotation. I'd really suggest making some spec changes if you are concerned about threat.
... I don't dare look... With 5 points in Ret, please don't tell me he spec'ed for Divine Intellect so he doesn't run out of mana....?
Post by
pezz
5/61/5 on the armory. I didn't look any closer but that answers your question.
Post by
Squishalot
5/61/5 on the armory. I didn't look any closer but that answers your question.
Could be worse, I guess.
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467324
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Post by
AnrDaemon
Personally, I prefer 0/59/12 spec.
It has
Vindication
, which boosts your single-target threat significantly. (Vindication will remove 574 attack power at 80 with 2/2 trained.)
How's reduced opponent AP increase your threat?
Post by
Quest
Personally, I prefer 0/59/12 spec.
It has
Vindication
, which boosts your single-target threat significantly. (Vindication will remove 574 attack power at 80 with 2/2 trained.)
How's reduced opponent AP increase your threat?
Maybe she dies without it.
Post by
oberondreaming
How's reduced opponent AP increase your threat?
They get really mad that you're reducing their AP?
I suspect he may have meant single-target survivability, but I was under the impression that Vindication didn't really work against bosses (the only real time that single target survivability matters).
Of course reading a bit more it appears as though my information is more than a little outdated.
Post by
Frames
Personally, I prefer 0/59/12 spec.
It has
Vindication
, which boosts your single-target threat significantly. (Vindication will remove 574 attack power at 80 with 2/2 trained.)
How's reduced opponent AP increase your threat?
It doesnt, he's wrong, what it does do though is reduce the melee damage you take from mobs or bosses.
Hey, it may not seem like much but every little bit of damage reduction/mitigration, adds up.
Post by
Quest
I didnt seen anyone saying Vindication doesn't seem like much. It takes off multiple 1000s from boss hits.
Post by
AnrDaemon
Does it even work on bosses? I saw alot of "Immune!" spam when I was using Vindication build back in my childhood.
Post by
Quest
Its would be pretty retarded if it didn't now wouldn't it :P
Post by
AnrDaemon
I can imagine. I'm asking because I don't want to waste money respeccing into Vindication just to test it for myself. Though the answer was "yes". :) Thanks.
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