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Demo Warlock - Any advice?
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Post by
jamayk
Heya,
I have a few questions. I rerolled demo in 3.3 for the raid buff and also because I like it.
Now that I keep DP with 450 + sp, I started to pay attention to get back in dps charts.
Still, even on demo, there are bosses where I do nice dmg, but smth is missing.
I have some frost badges, soon for 2 pieces. But I'm not sure what direction 2 go with the gear.
1. Should I focus on Haste more... because I have 542 without spellstone? I have 2 much crit?
2. Should I break the 2 pieces 9.2? I'm afraid the raid buff uptime will be lowered.
This is my warlock:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Jamayk
What would you change @ my gear?
Thank you very much,
JamayK
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Post by
jamayk
thanks. I will break the t9 2pc.
I know raid buff is the most important, but still if I can keep buff up and still do nice dps... then it's great :D
@giez.... well hit gems doesn't sounds rly nice... ofc hit > everything, but you should try 2 get ur hit from gear and gem with SP / haste - Sp / Spirit - SP
Thanks for replyies
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asakawa
demo's dps is the same as other lock specs if those specs didn't have the buff. i think you're living in 3.2 mate.
remember that your personal dps IS raid dps. it's a portion and the very best way to raise the raid's dps is to do good yourself. now the benefit to the raid is easily worth one person speccing demo but they shouldn't be sacrificing everything to up their contribution in that way.
the perfect example here is should a demo lock use a CSD meta or a spell power one? is the loss of personal dps worth the gain in raid dps given that the raid will only gain 2.5 SP each?
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asakawa
And the damage with the other speccs will rise with a demo in the raid.
ah, here's the misconception.
the des and aff numbers are
with
the demo buff. what i'm saying is that all specs are equal (incredibly equal in fact) if demo has the buff and the other specs don't. so if you're the only lock in a raid (which for simplicity's sake doesn't include a shaman) and you're destro your dps will stay exactly the same if you change to demo but the rest of your raid gets a boost.
demo is pretty good. you talk about people either playing max dps or for raid utility but there's also the fun factor. if someone just wanted to play demo then they would now (more than any patch before) be fine to do so without fearing that they're bringing the raid down.
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Post by
jamayk
Heya,
I broked the t9 2pc. Tonight we go ICC and I'll analyse the logs from there.
Well I asked some advices, and I got... even more :)
I'm not playing demo only for raid buff... but I like it also. I got bored of destr / affl; also I'm the only demo in our guild. I wasn't forced 2 go demo... but as demo I hope I can get the best dps from it also.
@Jorre: "set pet auto attack and go afk" ... I rly liked that. Well maybe I'm just new on demo, but I have the feeling that I do a little more effort to get the dps... then I was doing on destr.
@asakawa: agree both time :)
I'm happy you 2 kept the discussion in peace :)) it started to go a little strange.
I tried some simcrafts, but that's why I asked you all, because in a fight is different, and I tought I could use a little more haste. Soon with 2pc T10 I will have even more crit (on main dmg spells ... 5%). So 605 haste without Spellstone... maybe I should get closer to 800.
Anyway I'm happy they improved this spec in 3.3.
Offtopic: I've seen a huge difference between dps and total dmg. Eg: some mages that are top of dps... and 5-7 @ total dmg on boss encounter. I will not go forward with other observations, because I'll go away from the main issue that i had... breaking or not the t9, and getting a little more haste :)
If there will be more comments I will have 2 rename this post to smth like "
demo lock - rdps vs personal dps - and more!
" :))))
Thanks to all and btw: locks rullz :)
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Post by
Merf1980
I have a very small fall-off between affliction and demon in most ICC fights...sometimes demon is even ahead of affliction (Deathwhisper for sure thanks to leaving FG on her and me bursting adds better than I can as affliction).
Just wanted to throw that out there, I even may have logs to compare both specs here shortly, for those who may be interested.
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asakawa
that is what we would/should expect to see unless you had a demo lock in your raid before you swapped. only in that case would those be interesting results.
that said, i still topped the meters on festergut as demo. good cooldown use can really put out the damage when it's needed.
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